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I can resist anything bar temptation. Bought another 620ti.

4.8K views 24 replies 12 participants last post by  norbertom8  
#1 ·
When it's a nice example and only a few miles down the road its always worth a look. I decided to make a fair offer on first visit based on the car driving as well as it looks. The pictures show the R-Reg tidy 100,000 mile car with a nice near silent normal idle once warmed up.

My Rover 820 turbo neighbour alerted me to this half decent 620ti for sale between Cheltenham and Gloucester. He got chatting to its stall holder owner at Cheltenham Racecourse auto-jumble and the subject car came up. Owned for the past six years by a former employee of the main MG-Rover dealership in Cheltenham. He has a small collection of cars mostly Nipponese including 4 Datsun 240/260Zeds, one very tidy indeed he is restoring. Strange that ~ only one Rover. Obviously a car enthusiast and his 620ti appeared well cared for. He had had several silly low offers for the car when he advertised it and I paid a good sensible price for it and did not haggle. A price I'd expect to get for it at least after a year or two of ownership as these nice old cars have almost bottomed out on value now. Nice ones like this are still about but obviously with the passing years, numbers will decline. The trade are not interested in them.

The only negative being the SRS light does not illuminate at all so it's either a dud bulb or it has been removed. The owner assured me the bulb has not been removed. There's still three months before the MoT is due. There are at least ten MoT certs with the car's history folder and VOSA data indicates the lowish mileage of 100,000 is genuine. One Invoice indicates a new engine fitted @ 49,000 miles... Will check the numbers in due course. In my experience, these engines are at their best when reaching six figure mileages provided they have been well looked after. This car has all the indications that it has been well cared for. The engine was impressively smooth, near silent on start up and when warmed up.

I shall tax it for the 1st October and see how it shapes up.

Note to self. I must stop buying these nice old cars ... until the next opportunity comes along. ... ;) Such opportunities are rare indeed now.
 

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#9 ·
Apparently, greed is good.. :D

When opportunities like this come along ..

He who hesitates etc ... ;)

I do not need another car but, this will go to a good home in the meantime ( me ) and only caring car enthusiasts tend to buy these cars now when the time comes to sell it. Car consumers would not touch a 620ti with a barge pole whilst at the same time having a distinct Diesel smell about them. :lol: ... Their loss, our gain.

The previous owner said he gets 40 mpg at legal motorway speeds on a long run. I get mid-30s in mine so maybe with restraint, his figure may be achievable.
 
#8 ·
Spent some time having a closer look at this 620ti today. The battery looks fairly new but as the car has been unused at least since the spring, it could be in poor shape. Turned the key and the T-Series burst into life immediately. Always a good sign and the battery is probably OK.

The poor SONY single slot CD player I do not like. It has to go. I was delighted to find a Rover/Alpine 6-CD Multichanger under the passenger seat mounted nicely. Had a 620ti with one mounted like that about six years ago. I like them. My R45 and 620tis all have them and they work perfectly.

However, sliding back the cassette access cover and pressing the cassette release button ~ nothing. Dead as a Dodo. ..:( Not surprising ~ probably not connected to the SONY unit. I have a spare Philips R860 in good working order. Paid six quid for it from a scrapyard Rover 400 which had all the documents with it including the R860 user manual and the CODE ... :broon: Knew it would come in handy one day ... Good eh... ;)

The SONY unit was difficult to remove but I managed it after a struggle. The previous owner is a car ICE dealer and he told me it would come out in no time with the correct tools. It did not but after some frustrating minutes and two carefully deployed needle nosed pliers, I got it out without damage. Once out I was delighted to see the Rover Display connector but not the connector for the 6-CD Multichanger. Groping about in the darkness I managed to locate the cable connector tucked away down low behind the centre consol. That's better.

Fitted the R860 and soon got a good reception on all channels and heard the Multichanger doing its routine 6 slot check. Good sign. I pressed the MODE button on the R860 which usually brings the Multichanger into play but it did not. Maybe needs some CDs loaded. I got one from another car, pressed the release button and removed the empty cassette and inserted the loaded one. Pressed the MODE button and No.1 CD Track 1 started playing... Driving me Crazy by Fine Young Cannibals.

Excellent. I can play all my favourite CDs AND Tape cassettes in all my Rovers now ... :broon: My son's suggest I get one of those little gizmos they have in their Rovers which hold a million tracks. That's not the same.

Had a good look around engine compartment after fixing the radio. The radiator is brand new. It's the Diesel 600 one as the petrol turbo 600s are now as rare as the proverbial. also that uber-expensive Radiator Top Hose is also brand new. This is a well looked after car and I could not see any signs of oil or other liquid leaks anywhere. The Fluids in the PAS, Brake and Clutch Reservoirs were a good clean clean colour and spot on levels. Getting to like this car even more now.

The car even has the factory fit original boot lip spoiler which I prefer.

See attached. Pictures speak with more than a thousand words. .. ;)

Oh yes, nearly forgot. The AirCon works nicely!
 

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#12 ·
Nowt wrong with your eyesight ... ;)

I have one of those spoilers sitting around the house if you need it for one of the others.
If you no longer require it and price is reasonable, I may be interested. PM please.

My son has a spare one which he has been meaning to fit to his 620ti for ... eight years... :)

Yes, this 620ti has the lip spoiler. Over the past ten years, most of the 620ti I have and had have the OE Lip Spoilers on them which I prefer. They are a subtle upgrade and improve the rear end style of the car ... to my eyes. No idea if they improve the 'aero' of the car at twice the NSL ... :rofl: See attached.
 

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Engine compartment checks. Note brand new Radiator and fairly new Radiator Top Hose with Thermostat.

I plan to fit one of my modified Gear Control Shafts and maybe a Quick-shift gear lever. I still have one of each on my garage shelves. The superior Maestro Intermediate Steering Column Shaft U-J always gives a more positive feel to gear selection and the quick-shift improves the action still further. Also swap the Coolant Expansion Bottle for a 620ti one I cleaned up earlier. Also check condition of coolant. I like to have a very clean bottle ... ;)

Done about sixty miles in the car now. It's shaping up well. Other important things to do include I must soon drain the PG1 gearbox to check that there is sufficient and the correct lubricant in it. With 200ps and lots of torque going through that PG1 gearbox the condition of the lubricant is most important.

The final image shows how I like these 620ti bottles to be.

See attached images :~
 

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#22 ·
Yes, would certainly improve appearance if a shade lower. I have a set of nice red new springs which would lower the car nicely sitting on my garage shelf ..... for ages. I will not fit them simply because of the huge number of traffic calming devices which now infest local roads in some parts of Gloucester where most days I drive.

They were installed at huge taxpayer cost about a dozen years ago and tore a hole in the sump of my MG Montego Turbo even though I tried very carefully to pass over them when first installed. About five litres of Mobil 1's finest over Gloucester's roads. ... :( many scars of vehicle damage on them back then. So badly designed, ambulance drivers complained and they were all modified again at huge taxpayers expense. To enable ambulances to pass over them without shooting the ill and infirm all over the shop.

Thus now modified, White-Van-Man, Broodmare school run Mum in her Monster truck 4 be 4 now pass over them all at speed as though they were not there ... :rolleyes:

Precisely the very type of vehicles which really need to check their speeds in certain areas needing some traffic calming....

By careful road positioning, even I in my stiffly-sprung MG ZS and MGF can pass over them with minimal disturbance to the balance of the car and the comfort of those inside. In the 600s and 45s, much less of a problem .... still something I'd prefer to do without though.
 
#23 ·
+1 John, on lowering. That is why I won't lower mine too, too many badly designed speed bumps and other badly designed drive-ways e.g at one of my friends' house, the house is on a lower ground than the road and his driveway meets the road at a steep angle. My brother's Rover 75 which is low as 75s are, grounds the exhaust if I don't enter that driveway at a calculated angle and at an extremely low speed. My Ti passes there no problem whatsoever. The 75 also has trouble going over some badly designed speed bumps, the exhaust grounds on them, and that is on a standard Rover 75 that isn't lowered. Lowering looks good, but I choose not have my car damaged so I am not lowering.
 
#24 ·
mines got the red progressive rate springs and i find the front sits too low

im half tempted to raise the front a bit as our city is full of speed humps and i keep "clouting" the cat

whats best spring to use on front,,???

dont want it like a 620 si but mines deffo a bit too low on the front

mine runs on vitty 17" rims
 
#25 ·
Hope someone's still there...

When it's a nice example and only a few miles down the road its always worth a look. I decided to make a fair offer on first visit based on the car driving as well as it looks. The pictures show the R-Reg tidy 100,000 mile car with a nice near silent normal idle once warmed up.

My Rover 820 turbo neighbour alerted me to this half decent 620ti for sale between Cheltenham and Gloucester. He got chatting to its stall holder owner at Cheltenham Racecourse auto-jumble and the subject car came up. Owned for the past six years by a former employee of the main MG-Rover dealership in Cheltenham. He has a small collection of cars mostly Nipponese including 4 Datsun 240/260Zeds, one very tidy indeed he is restoring. Strange that ~ only one Rover. Obviously a car enthusiast and his 620ti appeared well cared for. He had had several silly low offers for the car when he advertised it and I paid a good sensible price for it and did not haggle. A price I'd expect to get for it at least after a year or two of ownership as these nice old cars have almost bottomed out on value now. Nice ones like this are still about but obviously with the passing years, numbers will decline. The trade are not interested in them.

The only negative being the SRS light does not illuminate at all so it's either a dud bulb or it has been removed. The owner assured me the bulb has not been removed. There's still three months before the MoT is due. There are at least ten MoT certs with the car's history folder and VOSA data indicates the lowish mileage of 100,000 is genuine. One Invoice indicates a new engine fitted @ 49,000 miles... Will check the numbers in due course. In my experience, these engines are at their best when reaching six figure mileages provided they have been well looked after. This car has all the indications that it has been well cared for. The engine was impressively smooth, near silent on start up and when warmed up.

I shall tax it for the 1st October and see how it shapes up.

Note to self. I must stop buying these nice old cars ... until the next opportunity comes along. ... ;) Such opportunities are rare indeed now.

I BOUGHT A 620TI JUST 5 MONTHS AGO, 40.000 MILES GREAT CONDITION.


Anyone know where I can find polyurethane engine mounts for it? lol



It's already hard enough to find the rubber ones...


Regards to all those who still remain here.


Norbert