Obviously it should be made from steel mined in Britain.

Unfortunately our last iron mine, and the last in Europe has now closed :dunno:

 

Should the vehicle be available in pink though?? :rofl:

Simon

 

has to be running costs these days unfortunately.

 

1. Drives as well as a fiesta or new mini
2. 100-120 hp & 35+ mpg on urban & >130g/km co2
3. Priced £9-11k
4. MG Z style kit & equipment
5. 3-5 year 100,000 mile warranty
6. Insurance group 5-8

 

not very specific then!!!! lol.
intrestingly though it's pretty much what i would be looking for, so a good choice.

 

1) BHP.
2) Diesel.
3) Price.

 

Look and style as well as overall quality. I wouldn't say One of those things individually would dominate wether i buy a car or not. It would be a mix of the lot really. Basically a vauge thing of wether I like the car.

 

I know it is very subjective but most people want particular things from a car and some of those are of the most important to a lot of people hence the choices aqnd the point of this thread.

One of the main reasons I buy a car is i like the way it looks and drives but I also have to consider the cost factor which most of these involve.

Simon

 

That's the thing see if a car suits at the time buy it. When I was a student I wanted a fun cheap car. SO I bought a Capri for £150. Then when I got a job and had to commute every day I got an escort. Then eventually through circumstance, I ended up living where I work, so I didn't need an economical car, after looking for a ZT for ages I settled for a ZS, eventually the ZTT came along.

But if I was still commuting I would probably have a diesel by now.

 

1) Handling
2) Good Performance/Economy compromise
3) Build quality and reliability

 

I'll steal your ideas and add

4) Style / Looks

MGs should never be ugly.

 

Interesting that the BHP and DIESEL ratings are the two most voted for, as they don't really go hand in hand generally. If it had been TORQUE and DIESEL that would be understandable.

 

I think that's just to do with people wanting a wide engine choice, I know I would.

 

At Simcor (in a friendly manner!!)

I'm not knocking diesels in the slightest. 80% of my driving is done in an LDV Maxus, so I do appreciate the merits of diesel. When it comes to economy it has petrol licked. Everyone knows that including the die hard petrol fans.
Diesels have come a long way in the last ten years no question, but if you're talking about bhp they can't hold a candle to petrol engines.
Put it like this: take an Evo 2.0l engine and you can screw 750 bhp out of it (a friend of mine has a 750bhp Evo), the old Rover T16 turbo has been tuned to a reliable 800bhp. what size diesel engine would you need to achieve that bhp figure? And before arguing the torque thing, bear in mind that a petrol 2.0l turbo more or less offers a similar torque rating as its bhp (200bhp=200fblt) and the arguement for diesel really only boils down to cost per mile. Don't even get me started on pollution.

 

I see what you are getting at buddy and sorry if you have taken offence at my post as it was not meant like that.

However that is hardly a fair comparision, the majority of people generally look for a car that produces a fair amount of BHP, how many people can honestly afford to run a car running 750bhp.

Yes petrol is good for all out and out power but why people get hung up on lots of horsepower is beyond me.

I'm talking average joe public here and cars like you mentioned are not really average joe public cars, the Octavia VRS variants are averag joe public cars generally hence my reference to them as an example.

Thats was my point.

Everything has it's advantages and merits.

Simon

 

has to be the best handling car in it's class

 

By all accounts you're in luck then!!!

 

By all accounts you're in luck then!!!

Or not.

By the account of one journo, yes, perhaps. But the handling judgements have generally been lukewarm.

 

Or not.

By the account of one journo, yes, perhaps. But the handling judgements have generally been lukewarm.

Only amongst people who have yet to drive the car!

Although as this thread is about a "new MG car" I am not sure which car you are talking about - I guess the fact that the new MG doesn't exist yet doesn't stop you saying how poor it is so maybe you are talking about the MG Zero or MG5 :dunno:

 

For me the following are the most important:

1) MPG
2) Running costs
3) Price
4) Comfort (not on the list).


I do a 30 - 40 minute commute every day down the motorway. When I'm commuting I want to be able to drive without feeling every bump on the road (which is why I'm not lowering my Rover just yet). I also don't want my fuel to drop rapidly while doing this commute. In my 1.4 petrol I'm using around a tank a week at the moment.

I also do a lot of driving out-of-work. I enjoy driving and always offer to drive should me and the missus go out anywhere, even though her car is considerably newer than mine with a lot more extras. I'm always driving us when we go on holiday too.

And I don't want my insurance and tax to cost me a fortune either.


If/when MG release a diesel MG 6 then I'd like it to be very economical to lower my tax. Call me a knob, but I'd be happy with a 2.0 diesel or something similar. Turbo's don't really bother me that much as I'm not the kind of person to go speeding off at the lights.


Basically, I'll round up for those too lazy to read all that.

I want a car that will get me from A to B comfortably without costing me a fortune.

 

And just how many people have driven the UK specification MG6?

For all you know the difference may be like the transformation of the Rover 45 into the ZS, or maybe there will be a sports model for those that want a ZS style drive and a "Rover" model for those that desire comfort first - you don't know yet!

 

There could indeed be an astonishing transformation.

There needs to be if it is to be worthy of the MG badge, because the Chinese spec car isn't.

 

There could indeed be an astonishing transformation.

There needs to be if it is to be worthy of the MG badge, because the Chinese spec car isn't.

Yes it is.

 

No, it really isn't.

It's a wallowing, slow, dull car, with less than inspiring looks and a cheap and rather dull interior.

That's not an MG in my book, but then I'm an MG enthusiast, and not an apologist for SAIC.

 

No, it really isn't.

It's a wallowing, slow, dull car, with less than inspiring looks and a cheap and rather dull interior.

That's not an MG in my book, but then I'm an MG enthusiast, and not an apologist for SAIC.

Well you did drive the Chinese spec cars, Autocar are the only people to drive the MG6 which was basically UK spec in terms of driving. It doesn't matter if a car is dull as long as it isn't ugly like a Kia Rio or something but when the Focus came out in 2005 it was criticized for being dull but it sold thousand as it was reasonably priced, well built, great to drive, comfortable, plenty of space and well equipped.

 

My opinion is widely shared.

The interior is far from 'stunning'. Even MG themselves admitted at Goodwood that the UK spec interior would be much better, because it needed to be.

 

My opinion is widely shared.

The interior is far from 'stunning'. Even MG themselves admitted at Goodwood that the UK spec interior would be much better, because it needed to be.

Yes MG did say that, the Piano black looks dull, VAG interiors are dull but they are well built, MG6 has a few cheap plastics in less obvious places apparently and the drinks holder looks very flimsy. Can't be any worse then ZS/45 and 25/ZR interiors.

 

Enthusiasts don't necessarily leave their critical faculties at the door when they enter.

SAIC marketing people are paid to do exactly that!

There's plenty of room for enthusiasm where it's justified, but exaggerated and undeserved praise for mediocrity is not the same thing at all.

 

I would have to say the first thing i consider is LOOKS which isnt on there, then its the power for me !

 

I truly cannot see what all the fuss about the MG6 is all about - It is potentially one car from a new range that will soon hit the UK.

If it is simply a fleet car aimed at Mondeo and Insignia as it appears to me I have ZERO interest in buying or driving one.

I want to see the smaller more practical cars that joe public will buy and drive.

Roll on the replacement for the 25/ZR which WILL be their new best seller.

If this hits the mark and is priced right they will have a winner.

 

I truly cannot see what all the fuss about the MG6 is all about - It is potentially one car from a new range that will soon hit the UK.

If it is simply a fleet car aimed at Mondeo and Insignia as it appears to me I have ZERO interest in buying or driving one.

I want to see the smaller more practical cars that joe public will buy and drive.

Roll on the replacement for the 25/ZR which WILL be their new best seller.

If this hits the mark and is priced right they will have a winner.

A petrol engined fleet car is dead in the water and more than no interest to me will be of no interest to the fleet car buyers.

Please read the reply to Jackonicko Forehead?????

This thread is not about the MG6 for the second time, any more posts relating to the MG6 and I will be asking mods to remove them.

Now please keep it on topic of new MG cars not the MG6.

Simon

 

Er yes Simon so please read my post.

I am interested in the whole proposed range not simply one model as is being banged on about in previous posts.

My interest is in the next 25/ZR............................

Isnt that clear?

 

Er yes Simon so please read my post.

I am interested in the whole proposed range not simply one model as is being banged on about in previous posts.

My interest is in the next 25/ZR............................

Isnt that clear?

Yes it is clear but also is my comment about wanting no more references to the MG6 in this thread.

So for everyone I don't want any more references to the MG6 please from now on in this thread please!!

Simon

 

Though you started the thread, you can't dictate how and where it may meander, and Climbsyke raised the spectre of one particular model.

I've already given my response to your original question, but I'll go further.

Your poll is flawed as there is no reference to the areas that most MG enthusiasts would stress as being priorities (eg handling), and because most people would not have one single over-riding 'what I'd look for' but rather would look for a blend of a range of characteristics, capabilities and features.

 

Though you started the thread, you can't dictate how and where it may meander, and Climbsyke raised the spectre of one particular model.

I've already given my response to your original question, but I'll go further.

Your poll is flawed as there is no reference to the areas that most MG enthusiasts would stress as being priorities (eg handling), and because most people would not have one single over-riding 'what I'd look for' but rather would look for a blend of a range of characteristics, capabilities and features.

It is my thread and if I request people not tp post something then the common courtesy of not posting what I have asked for should be given the same as most people will refrain from posting about something if somone asks them too on most threads, that is what I would do if and when asked.

The poll is not flawed at all it has most of the points people look for in a new car, were talking average joe here looking to buy a new car i.e MG or indeed any car. I could not list every single thing people look at when buying a new car but most of the choices are very important to most people these days. The biggest bit in this day and age being price, mpg etc.

If people want to add a point of something that they feel is important then they can add a post mentioning it like others have.

Simon

 

Your poll: "What would you look for in a new MG?"

Includes diesel engine availability but not handling.

And you don't see a flaw there, in a poll about a supposedly sporting brand?

As to courtesy and all the other yada yada, when posting a thread, you cast your baby free, and others take it where they will.

 

I rather think that, when Climbsyke responded to Mr. Happy's Post #20 in Post #22, he was probably referring to the fact that Mr. Happy lists his current car as a Dodge Avenger...

 

mainly:

fantastic space efficiency (fits in garage)

classy interior and looks

ideally sunroof, mudflaps, DAB

 

Fits in the garage & mudflaps !!!

And I get accused of taking the ****?

Is that your contribution to this thread?

Please note my previous suggestion for a new 25/ZR :

1. Drives as well as a fiesta or new mini
2. 100-120 hp & 35+ mpg on urban & >130g/km co2
3. Priced £9-11k
4. MG Z style kit & equipment
5. 3-5 year 100,000 mile warranty
6. Insurance group 5-8

Can you suggest who is taking this seriously and who is not?

 

The symbols aren't fixed it's the way they are used or at least that's what I was taught.

Hmm got me doubting myself now