Hello Fers and TFers.

Not ventured in here before, but i read this in the paper this morning and thought of you...

http://www.newcarnet.co.uk/Auto_news.html?id=11436

"In search of a Dr Frankenstein car, Warranty Direct united those with the worst profiles across the categories that make up its Reliability Index (www.reliabilityindex.com).

It's a unique tool that measures car reliability by considering average cost of repair, frequency of failure, age and mileage.

The disastrous car cocktail draws its power from an MG TF engine, sits on the suspension of a [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]BMW[/COLOR][/COLOR] M3, and has the electric workings of the Renault Megane.

It also boasts the gearbox of a Land Rover Freelander and the braking ability of the Audi A8."

Thank you for that unique and insightful piece of journalism...
Careful the door doesn't hit you up the ass on your way back out.

 

Any time pal, glad to have been of service

 

That would be the same engine as is in your ZR then...

 

<< chuckle >>

 

Thanks :lol:

 

How'd they find out about my car? Its supposed to be secret :dunno:

 

phone hacking :shh:

 

Engine of a TF, not an F... so... screw you you hippies! I'm off with my 'reliable' F!!!!
I suggest all of you with TF you just remove the T of the TF badge. That will make your care more reliable.

 

Engine of a TF, not an F... so... screw you you hippies! I'm off with my 'reliable' F!!!!
I suggest all of you with TF you just remove the T of the TF badge. That will make your care more reliable.

Says the man who's just done his HGF :rofl:

Oh, Welcome to the mad side of the forum Butch

 

As all the Fs broke down in the first 2-3 years from new and got fixed, they're reliable now. It's those modern TFs that give us a bad name......(ducks for cover)......

 

It could be worse, we could have M3 suspension [All merged threads]

Got this in today's piston heads daily news

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=23932

 

Haha - I've just written a story on this for my magazine.

I bet Audi, BMW and Merc aren't impressed for being in there.

 

I don't understand why the suspension of an M3? It didn't reported any serious problems back in Spain (At least the E46 model) anyone knows if it was a problem with RHD cars?

 

The more I try to defend my TF the more I come to realise its a bit of a losing battle.

Thing is I enjoy it. Im an ex forces mechanic and its perfect for me.

Its a bit like the whole ying and yang theory, it goes like stink, handles well, is a convertible with good mpg there has to be a down side or the universe would pop with frustration (or they would be 4k more in Autotrader).

So Im fine with changing head gaskets, waterpumps and thermostats. Im fine with looking at the road then the coolant temperature then the oil temperature 8 times a minute.
Im even fine with that random dribble you get for no reason through the door seal when its raining, it only happens about once every 3 months oddly but it happens.

Im fine with it all, because its mine.

And because passing cars with the top down and 160bhp underfoot will NEVER get old.

 

quite glad there were no ZR parts in there, looks like i'm safe with my tailgate wiring and BCU then. :err:

 

World's Most Unreliable Car has the engine from an MG TF

According to an article in The Times Motoring section yesterday. Anyone else read this? Absolute rubbish of course, what are everyone's thoughts?

 

Do you mean it refers to the MG TF as the most unreliable car or some other vehicle with the K-series fitted?

 

It states, 'This Frankenstein's monster is the most unreliable car ever, made up of the systems that fail most on various cars. The disaster on wheels is powered by an MG TF engine...'. To be fair, the K series is in good company as the other car parts were from BMW, Audi and Land Rover.

It was the The Telegraph, not The Times as I first said.

 

So it's refering to another car and not the TF.

Got a link to the article?

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8634376/The-most-unreliable-car-ever.html

 

Ah so its a p*** take

1 in 4 MG TF experience engine problems. Just the advertising MG needs with its K series developed engines.

Have any of the N series newbies had any issues?

 

1 in 4 MG TF experience engine problems. Just the advertising MG needs with its K series developed engines.

where'd ya get those figures from?

i thought it would be the other way round with tfs - maybe 1 in 4 dont get hgf

 

I just refreshed that article page and an ad for the MG6 appeared at the top. Definition of irony?

 

Or another example of bad marketing by MGs people.

 

1 in 4 hgf's?

That few? :lol:

 

now I'm no intenet wizzkid , but isnt online advertising directed by cookies stored on your computer ? ie my volkswagen driving next door neighbour can look at the same page and not see an ad for the mg6 as he has never visited the mg website ?

try it , visit the channel tunnel website and see how many ads for it pop up on your pc in the next couple of weeks , andy

 

That's right, it's what Google do so well.


I followed the link to Warranty Direct's Reliability Index, and was amazed to see how many Mercs there are in the bottom ten list. SL, CL and S-class share the worst four places with the Range Rover.

Equaly surprising, in the top ten, was the (Indian made) Suzuki Alto in second place, and the Fiesta in fourth.

Not so surprising, and nice to have a stereotype confirmed, is to find "the electrics of a Renault Megane" forming part of their Frankenstein like unreliable car.

 

What's Ccleaner ...? Sounds like something I need...

Edit to add :~ Just gooooogled it ...
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Yeah I use C cleaner but I dont have it set to clear cookies as it means logging into lots of things again , have you tried the channel tunnel thing yet ? andy

 

How do you set it to not clear cookies? That could be a pain.

Channel Tunnel ~ no last time I crossed the Channel it was on a dirty great Hovercraft and the channel was like a mill pond. Unbelievably smooth both ways. Impressive and memorable...
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In the options on ccleaner it gives you the choice of things to delete and you can untick cookies. Be very careful changing to many settings though as you could be deleting things essential so tread with care.

Back on the thread.

Here's a thought. Clearly the car is built up from the worst every manufacturer has to offer. If the K series is the worst engine they could come up with and clearly used the MGTF as it's originator SAIC is STILL being associtated with what they consider a bad engine. If it had said Rover 25 then that would be in the past BUT using the MG makes it current and still applicable.

Stigma eh?

 

Stigma eh?

I think you're reading far too much into this personally. They've compiled some figures together, and the K-Series fitted to the F/TF has the highest breakdown rate (mostly down to the poor cooling and head gasket troubles) according to their figures. There's no malice involved anywhere, it's just the numbers they're going off.

 

If there's no stigma why not simply say the old K series engine as fitted to old Rovers? No they make a conscious effort to use a current model which is still on MGs books.

Of course it was political

 

You're deluded if you think someone's sat down and thought "Oh yes there's a new MG range coming out shortly, let's cause some trouble and concentrate solely on an old (designed) MG model". Complete and utter nonsense.

The reason they've picked on the F/TF is simply because it has more engine related breakdowns than any other car they can find.

 

If you say so.

 

Remember, Mods know best

lol