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Car making is back at Longbridge but with only 18 on the production line

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Car-making is back at Longbridge, but with only 18 on the production line

Aug 18 2008 By Duncan Tift
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In 1905 Herbert Austin founded the Austin Motor Company at Longbridge. Now, 103 years later, car production has once again resumed at the famous factory. Duncan Tift was the first journalist to see the production line moving again at the plant, now owned by China’s Nanjing Automobile.
Herbert Austin would no doubt approve of the fact that motor cars are once again being built at his beloved Longbridge and even though he may find the surroundings different, the vehicle numbers are far more 1908 than 2008.
Walking into Longbridge’s massive assembly plant is an eerie experience. Huge assembly lines that produced hundreds of thousands of cars a year stand silent and still.
The only operation is the production of small numbers of MG TF sports cars – small the operative word.
Despite the surroundings, this is a cottage industry, more akin to Malvern’s iconic Morgan than anything British Leyland conceived.
Trying to convey the scale of the operation when confronted with such a massive backdrop is difficult.
These figures may help put the operation into perspective.
Nanjing Automobile (NAC), which owns the plant and everything in it, is producing 45 cars a week – 180 a month and slightly more than 2,000 a year.
It employs 180 people at the 110-acre site, of which just 55 are employed in the logistics, paintshop and assembly operation.
Touring the facility yesterday there were just 18 people – 17 men – on the assembly line, which to say it moved at snail’s pace would be doing an injustice to gastropods.
However, to revisit all the pessimistic stories about the demise of the British car industry and the emergence of the new economies of India and the Far East serves no purpose.
This is what car production at Longbridge is – and what it will be for the foreseeable future. That final point is important, because for the first since perhaps the demise of MG Rover, the plant does have a future.
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There is a 500 special edition limited run of the MG TF LE500, of which almost 80 per cent is already pre-sold – showing there is still a market for the model despite it being 15 years old.
The cars are expected to be in showrooms from next month after which production will revert to the standard model.
The company is marketing them in the UK and Ireland and plans to expand to the rest of the EU at some point in the future. No word yet however, on when – or if – the car will go on sale in the United States.
Our guide yesterday, NAC spokeswoman Eleanor de la Haye was only too keen to explain about what is happening at the plant now and what the future holds.
“The workers are splitting their time between the assembly and the trim operations – one day they will work on assembly and then revert to trim the following day.
“All the models are hand-built and of the components used, 40 per cent of the parts are sourced from the EU and 60 per cent from China and the rest of the world,” she said.
The production line can take up to 100 cars at a time – approximately a fortnight’s production.
“This will ensure that every dealer can have one at the same time,” said Ms de la Haye.
So far 44 cars have been produced and are ready to transfer on to the MG dealer network, which has about 50 outlets around the country.
“We are looking at producing around 2,500 to 3,000 cars a year depending on demand,” she said.
“At the moment, we are looking at producing around 45 a week, which could rise.”
The cars themselves in their vivid orange create a striking contrast against the rather sombre background. However, the mood of the workers appears in keeping with the colour scheme – sunny.
Guy Hunter was a fitter with 15 years’ experience at Rover.
He is now working on the new assembly line and is delighted to be back doing what he enjoys most, making cars.
“These are hi-spec cars and it’s great to be back here making them again,” he said.
Mr Hunter, of Selly Oak, has worked for NAC for the best part of two years.
So what does he make of them as an employer?
“The company’s good and we’re enjoying ourselves here.
“It’s not too different from Rover,” he added.
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Lisa Ponter, of Bromsgrove, is the sole woman on the line. A Rover veteran with 13 years’ experience in the sewing shop and five years on the production line, she is also delighted to be back making cars.
“It was a bit strange coming back at first but now it’s very enjoyable.
“And I’m working again with a lot of the people who were with me when I was at Rover.”
Indeed, the company has had no difficulty in getting people to come and work for it.
Some have even turned their backs on the likes of Bentley in order to get their hands dirty at Longbridge again.
Something of which Mr Austin would no doubt approve.

Source : The Birmingham Post
 
#4 ·
This is little short of embarassing... :shake:

Regards

John

John,

I am minded to agree with you, except that I simply cannot fathom why this is being done? There is no logical step to producing cars in a cottage industry fashion at a massive factory (with the overheads that come with it). Therefore, our industrious eastern friends must have some alternative grand plan. What that is - I have absolutely no idea!!!
 
#11 ·
That in itself is a miracle after the last few years.. not only the TF but a second model is way beyond what we feared to hope for only a short while ago...

Remember most thought all production would head to China and Longbridge would simply become a huge retail park..

I don't know about you lot.. but as an enthusiast I am well excited.. there is a future.. my god. who would have thought of that after the lines stopped and the workers were laid off.. potential potential potential by the bucket load..
 
#12 ·
Somebody. Private investors or government. Take Longbridge away from Nanjing, and start producing electric cars either under license or wholly indigenous, and do it right now.

This is what needs to happen. England if it is to survive as a country in any significant way needs something everyone can believe in. Currently you know Scotland is going to get out as soon as the next election, and probably Wales will do so not long after.

How about if not a solution to that, instead, build yourselves a technological leader in the electric car industry? Produced on the ruins of the British car industry? Set up either wholly owned by government or backed by the government and built with knowledge from Cambridge and the country's best firms an electric car maker that can challenge both the big car makers, and which can set an agenda that people in England and Scotland want.

If England can't run its neighbors, at least with a credible electric car maker England can make a step toward running itself. For the first time. Ever.
 
#13 ·
Yes, I trust there is a grandiose plan in the background. Indeed, I am confident this is but the start of something much greater But who the heck in the right mind shows off to the world, a half empty car plant and hails it as a success?
I don't believe it. Everyone who has witnessed the last 30 years of british car industry development should be sceptical.

It's time for new plans. It's time for people to think what else can we do with this very nice car making heritage that we have. It's time for government and industry to partner and take these companies and produce the electric cars that people want and need.

Government should be underwriting the development of electric cars in Britain. Now. Perhaps it should buy MG-Rover. Perhaps it should set up an establishment such as the Royal Aircraft Works (and yet not produce R101), i.e. an English Electric motorworks (perfect name).

The economics IMO are at this time crushingly obvious. Electric is the way forward. The first country to embrace it will own the electric car market. And thus own the automotive market.

IMO this country will be the USA. But Britain if it wants could come in a close second. In so doing it could knock off companies everyone hates like BMW by making electric cars. Britain could do this.

It wont. Of course. Britain is finished.
I merely point out alternatives.
 
#15 · (Edited)
YOU are.

Regards

EVERYONE ELSE.
John is doing more than you have. He is not an embarassment to anyone in the remotest sense of the word.
You should hope to do as much as he has done. Why not try saying what you think should be done in as gentlemanly a fashion as John Switzer has done over the past six years and then your words will be worth something.
 
#36 ·
I've been a fan of this forum (and John's postings) for many years, but I think it's true to say that the relentless negativity coming from him lately is putting him in danger of acquiring troll status, no matter how good his intentions may be.

Having looked back over the past 6 months at comments exchanged between forum members, John and a few others have criticised NAC-MG at just about every turn - developments not being fast enough, hopeless PR, not enough efforts with employment at LB, lack of commitment to mass production, and now the latest issues with the level of hand built content with the TF.

The majority of us have understood that any return of MG in the UK and Western Europe will take plenty of time and money. Add to that the merger/takeover situation between NAC and SAIC, and it's easy to see why matters haven't progressed as quickly as we would have liked.

The fact is though, we now have cars being produced at LB again, and while the TF may not exactly be described as "state of the art" it does represent a great start, and as "enthusiasts", we should be delighted that words are now turning into action.
 
#17 ·
I think John is right, this is hardly a moment to be hanging out the bunting. The bit about the workforce doing a day at one end of the production line, then a day at the other end, just made me laugh. But still, it is a sign that SAIC has a long-term view of Longbridge even if I am doubtful about the economic viability of the plant. At least it lends support to the strategy of bringing a full model line-up back to this country. At the end of the day, though, I think Longbridge has far more importance as an R&D centre.

As for the British government supporting electric vehicle production, this is not just of doubtful economic viability, it is pure fantasy. This country is already home to the worlds largest manufacturer of electric commercial vehicles yet output is still miniscule. Electric cars for personal use are still at the experimental stage and will not trouble the mainstream until battery technology is vastly improved, the infrastructure is put in place, oil prices absolutely sky-rocket and internal combustion technology development hits a glass ceiling. The British government should support electric vehicle research, but to attempt to foster industrial leadership would be risky in the extreme. It is not even as if the government has a good record as a participant in industry. It makes no sense to allocate what tax payers' funds are available for supporting industry to chasing a dream. In any case, what all this has to do with MG Rover I really can't fathom.
 
#18 ·
Of course, the irony is that if they weren't as open about the number of employees, everyone would be saying, what are they hiding? Are all the employees on the line Chinese or something?

They're dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.

But it is worth pointing out, they only have a low sales target this year and next, so its hardly worth employing hundreds of people to make a few thousand cars, is it?

The number I would suggest is right for the production volumne they have in mind.

Some people have their head stuck around how the plant used to work, not how it works now.

Times have changed and I suggest that some people need to change with them.

There will be a higher volume line installed when they start making the 550 derivative.

Even with a production line of 18, the future is a damn sight more rosey than it was 12 months ago.... Strange how quickly some people are to pass judgement on the now and forget the past.
 
#19 ·
Of course, the irony is that if they weren't as open about the number of employees, everyone would be saying, what are they hiding? Are all the employees on the line Chinese or something? They're dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.

I’m not sure if you’re reading the same thread as I am. But certainly in the thread I’m reading, I don’t think anyone has disputed that the resumption of production at Longbridge is anything other than a good thing :) With SAIC in control, the future of the plant looks infinitely more certain than it did during the Wilderness Years of NAC’s stewardship.

But seriously, how mind bogglingly daft does someone need to be, to show the media around a largely empty car plant with a small number of employees and expect it to be hailed as a great success? I would suggest that some of the dealers selling the cars will have more people working in their workshop than there are on the shopfloor at Longbridge.

Tours and visits like this should be left until the instigation of volume car production at Longbridge – and ‘til then, the company’s PR offensive should be firmly focused upon the product, not the plant.

Regards

John
 
#25 · (Edited)
I think it's great news that car making has started again at Longbridge, even if the numbers are small at the moment. We should be celebrating, not carping.

And I can't see a problem with showing people around (*) to prove that it's real and not just talk. Obviously most of the factory will be idle at the moment. That just shows that they have big plans - if they had a very small factory ('TFs nailed together by two blokes in a shed' as someone once said), then it would look silly.



* can I have a look, please?
 
#45 ·
one of the resons they are being handpainted are the limited numbers and the breakdown of colours.
75 scorched red
75 vibrant orange
25 crystal white.
blue and grey 100 each
black 125
not much point opening the paint plant for that.
by the way mge says the standard tf will only carry over raven black all the other colours will be new and will include brg.
bear in mind all the bits are coming from china so a small workforce is all thats needed at the moment.
 
#53 ·
With regards to the bickering and negativity. I think everyone that wanted to make a point has probably done so, so no real need to carp on about it, is there?

Could we start to play nicely, and if we can't get on, put each other on ignore?

Maybe not for you, but for the sanity of others.

Thanks guys and gals.