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30 - 70 Timings! Wingy777 Modified Injectors!

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#1 ·
Ooooh have i got a treat for you Diesel drivers!

This thread is to see who can get the closest to the time set by our well known chap running these Modified injectors.

Times done in third gear alone, 30 - 70mph.

Time to beat = 5.1 seconds:bigeyes: ! See below for Daves New Injector performance demo!

http://s177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/ZS_Nut/?action=view&current=16042007004.flv

Just remember only do it when on your private roads and when it's safe to do so!

Cheers, Phil.
 
#4 ·
ok i would just like to say that i dont think this 30-70 in 3rd gear will prove much, as my car is now running quite standard, it will still do it in around 6.5 secs. If u want to show off the extra torque would suggest doing it in 4th, 30-70 in 4th. this would give a better representation of the extra power produced or even 40-80,90, whatever, this 3rd gear wont prove much.

sorry phil just my opinion
 
#5 ·
ok i would just like to say that i dont think this 30-70 in 3rd gear will prove much, as my car is now running quite standard, it will still do it in around 6.5 secs. If u want to show off the extra torque would suggest doing it in 4th, 30-70 in 4th. this would give a better representation of the extra power produced or even 40-80,90, whatever, this 3rd gear wont prove much.

sorry phil just my opinion
Nah no probs Mad, I've only put this thread up so everyone can have a bit of a blast in there cars, Having Daves vid as the comparison gives everyone something to aim for. Plus it's very entertaining to watch! Just wish my needle would move that fast! But soon it will!!!

I know what you mean about using higher gears would show off the torque capabilities but 3rd gears a good all round gear for me when i'm giving the local boy racers a hard time:D

Maybe at some point when he's got a bit less on his plate we'll have some other times in different gears to compare to but for now this vid still does it's job at entertaining and impressing.

Cheers,

Phil.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Well Here's mine. This was smorning, it was 8 degrees and a gnats whisker downhill and I'm running slightly lower profile tyres than standard. Not too good judging by your comments.

I didn't time mine then but watching my vid I'd estimate about 7.5 secs. I don't know what standard is.
BTW mine has -
Wingy De-Cat
Matt re-map
Rover Ron Mafam
ITG Filter
Something wrong ?
 
#7 ·
Well Here's mine. This was smorning, it was 8 degrees and a gnats whisker downhill and I'm running slightly lower profile tyres than standard. Not too good judging by your comments.
Nice Vid there Revor, I must do one of my own now!

That's actually quite good in my opinion mate as you've got to remember that the further down the times go(especially the 5 second bracket), the harder it becomes to gain more time! If you went only 1.5 - 2 secs quicker than Wingys time then you'd be in Super/Hyper car territory! So to be only 2 - 3 seconds off Wingys times without injectors & exhaust is cracking!

I think i remember reading on the forums somewhere that with just the standard car before maf/mafam(a 45 i believe), it took them 17 seconds 30 -70 so there's a comparison for everyone!

Doesn't it make you want those injectors more and more though when these Videos pop up:hyper: !

Cheers, Phil.
 
#8 ·
Mine is about the same 30-70 as RevorTDs, so your timing seems ok. My mods are the same as yours too. One thing I notice from these videos is that your all going slightly past 70mph in third, whereas mine will just scrape 70 before the limiter cuts in. Is that right?
 
#10 ·
Okay, I was bored enough to try. :p

30-70 in third (measured between previously calibrated GPS speeds, not default rather dodgy speedo settings!) - 5.8 seconds, with the TU1 set to slight puffs of smoke and slightly high idle, and boost at 20psi with the ball & spring controller.

Not too shabby! Might have had the benefit of a tail wind though, bit breezy down here today! :lol:
 
#11 · (Edited)
Hi Phil,

Here some times for you to compare. Right heres my times running the hybrid turbo at 20psi of boost and all the usual mods between 6 and 6.5 seconds on average about 6.2 over 5 timed runs all done in third gear.

Then i carried on changing up into 4th to see what time 90mph came up, which on average was in a time of 15.5 seconds!

So 30-90mph 3rd threw 4th gear coming up in 15.5 seconds in think is quite good and i'm only running a bit extra fuel at the moment with Ron's tuning box's fuel dial at about 3 o'clock so they my be some quicker times to post yet!

will try and get some video evidence to back it up aswell.

Cheers, Mark.
 
#14 ·
Ok, just come back from some 30-70mph (indicated) runs, the average was around the 10 second mark. That is with the limiter being hit at around the 4.5 - 5K rpm mark. Its difficult to hold my stopwatch, look at the speedo,look at the rev counter all at the same time!!

Cheers
Skelo
 
#19 ·
Here is a few timings I did today, i dont think my engine is particularly healthy tho unfortunatly. Only done 27k too.

~9secs 30-70 3rd Gear - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxrEjeE1deE

~10secs 30-70 4th Gear - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWPIazISJBQ

~17secs 50-90 5th Gear - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF17v60b0_w

Only mod is a decat.

What do they look like? seem abit poor to me?
Seeing as mine was only .5 a second quicker than yours 30-70 3rd gear, and mines had a remap, I think thats pretty good.
Jim
 
#18 ·
I got some 600 diesel injectors this morning......:naughty: :naughty: :naughty: ...... as I knew the car they came off was running perfectly I just popped them in. OMG!!!!!! my car is quick! 8.5 seconds 30-70 in 3rd was the time before, 6.25 appox now! whats more, 50-70 in top gear is now a shade quicker than it was before in 4th gear!!!!!!
Theres just one problem though....the car now clags like *******! I dunno if I'm going to get Matt to remap it or what, but the standard injectors are going back in tomorrow....
Jim
 
#42 ·
I got some 600 diesel injectors this morning......:naughty: :naughty: :naughty: ...... as I knew the car they came off was running perfectly I just popped them in. OMG!!!!!! my car is quick! 8.5 seconds 30-70 in 3rd was the time before, 6.25 appox now!




are they injectors off a rover 600 diesel? does it really make a difference I thought all the L series were the same?


 
#23 · (Edited)
After watching that video I feel confident that I could give the V6 something to think about.

It took a while to clear first gear even if it is high geared, with 180bhp and 2.5ltrs the L series seems off the pace, in reality I am not sure.

On the road I would quite happily bench my Derv 25 against it.

It would be an interesting match!

Cheers.
 
#24 ·
After watching that video I feel confident that I could give the V6 something to thing about.

It took a while to clear first gear even if it is high geared, with 180bhp and 2.5ltrs the L series seems off the pace, in reality I am not sure.

On the road I would quite happily bench my Derv 25 agianst it.

It would be an interesting match!

Cheers.
I think your on to something,seen ya Vid. was well impressed with it.Posted realy to show how close we all are now(still think the V sounds better lol)Also your power to weight must be excellent.
Nice work mate.

Shroon

ps 175 as standard lol
 
#27 · (Edited)
Bl**dy ell! Looks like everyone's been busy today doing some timed runs! Just thought i'd quickly pop on when i finished work and i've been sat here ages now reading through all the timings & vids.

Right i did a few timed runs & Vids on the way home but the vids turned out cack cos i can't keep my hand steady, i'll try to master it on the way home from work again tomorrow. I've got one here that i clicked off bang on 70(thought i was still stop watching). Like i said though not mastered get a perfect vid yet.

http://s177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/ZS_Nut/?action=view&current=02052007011-2.flv

Timed runs worked out at just under or around the 7 second mark with just me in the car. And from what i've been reading results wise it looks like us 400/45/ZS guys are suffering a little with the extra weight. Anyone know for sure the exact weight difference? Think i remember hearing it was around 120 - 140kg.
Please don't think i'm making excuses though as it's plain to see everyones doing a real good job at tuning there cars.

I'm awaiting my pillar pod still so once i've got everything set up boost wise i'll give it another crack, and see if i can better my time.

Thinks it's obvious to see what difference these injectors make though. I can't wait for them to arrive now!

Phil.
 
#28 ·
Must admit Shroon, Really like the sound of the V6:drool: ! What sort of power's it putting out now with the extra mods you've done to it?

Would be real nice to see what a standard & tuned V6 could do on the 30-70 timing. Probably be done in 2nd gear instead though as the V6 will probably manage it. 30 - 100 would be nice to see as well.

Phil.
 
#30 ·
In comparison to others on here, i'm a little disappointed on my timings.

My timings ranged from 9.7 - 10.5 seconds, but having seen that a standard SDi is about that sort of time standard!!! (poster below mine)

Considering mine has the usual basic mods plus a re-map, this doesn't seem to be so great.
Is my car under performing, or is the SDi running particularly well as standard?

Cheers
Skelo
 
#31 · (Edited)
In comparison to others on here, i'm a little disappointed on my timings.

My timings ranged from 9.7 - 10.5 seconds, but having seen that a standard SDi is about that sort of time standard!!! (poster below mine)

Considering mine has the usual basic mods plus a re-map, this doesn't seem to be so great.
Is my car under performing, or is the SDi running particularly well as standard?

Cheers
Skelo
Who knows really, It could possibly be that his car's maybe been fiddled with an earlier date previous to him buying. Could do with a few times from standard models to compare wuth really.
I know that when i had my 400 gsdi, that thing was quick and all i did to it was turn up the boost but it still really smoked like no ones business! So i put it down to it probably being chipped at some point in it's life cos it would easily stay with 110 tdi passats/golfs and in standard form it really shouldn't.

Your times do seem a little slower than maybe expected but how much exactly have you done to your car? Maybe the lag time's a bit more than it should be?

Just to recap and make sure everyones doing this as it should be, Is everyone cruising at the said speed then flooring it? or flooring it then timing as it hits 30?

Cheers,

Phil.
 
#36 ·
One main thing i've noticed on these timings though is that anyone going on to 80, 90, or 100, the times really do drop off quite severely! Compare this to Daves vids previously and it just keeps going and going very quickly indeed! So the performance differences these injectors give top end are astounding!

As Mad said earlier in the post some 4th, 5th gear times would be worth doing as i think then the injector difference would really put us all to shame.
But that's for a different thread so for the mean time keep those times coming lads!

Phil.
 
#37 ·
Right to give you all something else to compare to..

Alfa 156 2.4 JTD, RR @ 145bhp, full tank of asda's finest fuel, weight approx 1500KG with driver and fuel

30-70 in 3rd ~7.5s
30-70 in 4th ~16s

Damn that turbo lag and longer gearing, 70mph in 3rd is still well inside the powerband and in 4th it lagged to hell until about 39mph

Skelo, those times aren't great, having tested my car alongside ricc's SDI i can confirm that your time should be around the same as mine, if not a little faster (damn that lightweight car lol)
 
#47 ·
Well lads i was going to come on here tonight with a new vid but while my lady was keeping an eye out for cars so i could give my self some room for when i did the run on the upcoming road, a lad in a new punto came behind me rather quickly, pulled out into second lane to turn right(i thought) and proceeded to toe it straight over the roundabout, so phone went in the lap of the misses and we had a bit of a play!
Must admit, he'd got a bit of bottle, so i'll give him credit for that as most lads round here pussy foot in the bends or curb it but not this one. Best fun i've had in ages.

Anyways, no vid tonight i'm sorry, i'll try again tomorrow.

At least the Z showed why it's so good again though. just grips and goes!!!

Cheers, Phil.