[Godalmighty83]

but as i said not confirmed, although the torque was always rumoured to be fairly high.

 

[JohnSwitzer]

Seriously quick....? Ludicrously quick

Can you get an MG Express version?

John

 

[SteveChilds]

All the XPower cars are built to order, so best thing to do is ring MG Sport and Racing and ask! If they will do - I'm definetly going to get one later in the year.

 

[JohnSwitzer]

If MGR can offer a roadgoing 250bhp version, then I reckon they'll establish a modern day legend - a 21st Century Mini Cooper. And if they can get a sub 5 second 0-60 time, just think of the immediate kudos that the ZR range in general would gain.

A great start to what promises to be a great year

John

 

[JohnSwitzer]

Yup I may just do that

John

 

[SteveChilds]

If MGR can offer a roadgoing 250bhp version, then I reckon they'll establish a modern day legend - a 21st Century Mini Cooper. And if they can get a sub 5 second 0-60 time, just think of the immediate kudos that the ZR range in general would gain.

A great start to what promises to be a great year

John

problem is that the 250 version would be around 25-30K, the 210 is probably the best value for money.

 

[andy]

Can Steve use that program to calculate those figures if that 210 engine is fitted to an Elise please? :hyper:

 

[SteveChilds]

Can Steve use that program to calculate those figures if that 210 engine is fitted to an Elise please? :hyper:

Standard Elise:
0-60: 5.6
0-100: 16.6
1/4 Mile: 14.47 @ 94.55
30-50: 4.19
50-70: 4.17

K2000 Powered Elise
0-60: 3.83
0-100: 9.79
1/4 Mile: 12.32 @ 113.97
30-50: 3.04
50-70: 2.87

mg:

I wonder if Lotus will be interested in the K2000?

 

[SteveChilds]

Before anyone asks - here's the TF210 figures.

0-60: 5.5
0-100: 14.8
1/4 Mile: 14.19 @ 98.67

 

[Godalmighty83]

ok then, all of the above with the 250 lump then

is that cartest your using, i installed the old dos version onto my new comp but every time i press one of the F keys it opens a web page instead of doign the application attached.

 

[SteveChilds]

ok then, all of the above with the 250 lump then

is that cartest your using, i installed the old dos version onto my new comp but every time i press one of the F keys it opens a web page instead of doign the application attached.

Yeah, I bought the windows version

250 wouldn't make much difference tbh - haven't got the time now to run them through, but going on previous experience, it'll knock a bit off, but its torque that makes the most difference.

 

[JonnyCoupe]

Im quite sure the 250bhp will have its peak torque elsewhere and of a higher value, power is just rate of torque afterall, and if it revs higher would make it much quicker on the quarter mile with less gear changes.

 

[mitchy]

Unless the car changes to 4wd, there will be no sub 5 sec runs from a ZR.

Guys being serious, do you actually think MG are going to market produce this car??

Ive seen some figures flying around at what a 250 may cost.

£29k.

If i had a spare £29k, it would be spent on something special. Evo FQ330 or similar.

 

[JonnyCoupe]

Unless the car changes to 4wd, there will be no sub 5 sec runs from a ZR.

Guys being serious, do you actually think MG are going to market produce this car??

Who said it would do a sub 5 sec?

 

[SteveChilds]

Unless the car changes to 4wd, there will be no sub 5 sec runs from a ZR.

Guys being serious, do you actually think MG are going to market produce this car??

Ive seen some figures flying around at what a 250 may cost.

£29k.

If i had a spare £29k, it would be spent on something special. Evo FQ330 or similar.

That's why I wouldn't get the X250, but the X210 at £20K is a lot more reasonable.

 

[SteveChilds]

Revised Timings with 174lb/f

ZR160
0-60 - 7.2
0-100 - 21.35
1/4 Mile - 15.81 @ 90.8 mph
30-50 - 6.59
50-70 - 6.73
70-90 - 7.95

ZR210
0-60 - 5.5
0-100 - 15.29
1/4 Mile - 14.3 @ 97.6 mph
30-50 - 4.5
50-70 - 4.4
70-90 - 5.0

Now that is seriously quick.

I've had it confirmed, 170lb/f @ 5250.

So, those times were based on it at 4K, so take a fraction off as they won't be as quick. Still blindingly fast though.

 

[Snooker]

I've had it confirmed, 170lb/f @ 5250.

So, those times were based on it at 4K, so take a fraction off as they won't be as quick. Still blindingly fast though.

Hello Steve,

I'm still not convinced. The torque is very high for a normally aspirated engine. If I got the figures right your 170lbft @ 5250 is equal to 230 Nm.

Honda Civic Type R has a torque of 196 Nm @ 5900 (144lb ft) and Honda S 2000 has 208 Nm @ 7500 (153 lb ft).

Where is the difference coming from?

cheers,
marc

 

[ml.williams]

increased engine size and totaly new head with proper valve size i beilive

 

[Dave turbo]

Hello Steve,

I'm still not convinced. The torque is very high for a normally aspirated engine. If I got the figures right your 170lbft @ 5250 is equal to 230 Nm.

Honda Civic Type R has a torque of 196 Nm @ 5900 (144lb ft) and Honda S 2000 has 208 Nm @ 7500 (153 lb ft).

Where is the difference coming from?

cheers,
marc

The 1.8 vvc has 130-40 lb/ft so I'm sure with more capacity and other bits it would get that figure!

The 2.5 K is 177lb/ft.

 

[Snooker]

The 1.8 vvc has 130-40 lb/ft so I'm sure with more capacity and other bits it would get that figure!

The 2.5 K is 177lb/ft.

The TF 160 has a torque of 128 lb/ft @ 4700.
If I calculate the extra capacity of 0.2 litre I would end up at 142 lb/ft. This figure is still some 20% short of the claimed 170 lb/ft.

So I'm still looking for the answer.

cheers,
Marc