GSI was only available as the 420 I believe from 96-

 

I had a 416sli. This has 4 electric windows, electric heated mirrors, air con, abs, disk brakes all round, rear headrests, rear armrest. This was an R 97 saloon. I believe the later 1.6 400/45's lost the rear disk brakes (but could be wrong). IIRC the only difference between the gsi and the sli was the leather, cruise control and CD Autochanger. Specs on the 400's changed around P 1997 to include air con instead of sunroof etc. (apart from i models which had sunroof instead of air con!).

My ZS180 however has no rear electric windows, no rear armrest and no rear headrests.

Anthony.

 

Rear disks are a lottery. There is no will or won't get it dependant on model.

 

The difference between I, SLI & GSI

My car is a 1999 "T", manual rear windows, no rear armrest, rear disc brakes, electric door mirrors - not sure if heated.

Adrian.

 

What you have there buy the sounds of it is equivelent to the Si but with the cloth seats not the half leather ones.

Your spec is identical apart from the seats to an Si that I looked at when chosing the iXL.

 

Rear disks are a lottery. There is no will or won't get it dependant on model.

IIRC it used to go on the engine size. 1.4's no chance. 1.6 and above yes. Then they were dropped on the 1.6 too at or just before the time the 45 came out. Standard on 1.8 and above from then on. Not sure about the diesels.

Anthony.

 

I had a 96i 1.6 with them, by brother in law had a 96Si without them. Both saloon's with ABS.

It has been a lottery from day one.

I believe if you went for the ABS upgrade (non standard on the i model) you got rear disks so that you could see what you paid for.

 

Just to add to the specification debate, I own a 99' T 416 iL with leather seats, steering wheel and gear knob, cd player ( crap ), electric front windows, rear arm rest and head rests all round.

 

Someone payed a lot for extra's on that car then.

 

No, the iL was a new model launched (along with the SEi and iS) not too long before the 45 came along and featured the above kit as standard.

The i, Si and SLi were dropped and the GSi was renamed the Executive when the SEi, iL and iS were launched.

 

The iL came out with the iS and iXL (I have the iXL). March '99 to april '00.

It does not have leather seats, steering wheel or gear knob as standard. Does have the CD, rear headrests and fogs though.

The iXL gets the leather steering wheel, rear electric windows, passenger airbag and ABS as standard on top of the iL spec.

Neither got a leather gear knob as standard.

 

The iL spec. isn't bad if all the cow comes as standard still would have liked electric mirrors, discs all round and front fogs though ( now I'm just being greedy ). Clear indicators a nice touch.

 

Leather isn't standard on the iL.

The iXL with leather upgrade would have given you all you required there.

Sounds like you need to buy my iXL, swap the seats and then sell your iL

 

You are wrong sorry Stu. The Sei, iS iL and iXL replaced the old models and were probably better value with more equipment. Leather was standard on the iL definitely. The iS was the sportier version and came with half leather and alloys. The iL had full leather. I have the brochure in the house. As parkers quote :

iS/iSD models are sporty-looking, with half-leather seats, front fog lamps, CD tuner, alloy wheels and rear spoiler. iL/iLD models add full leather seats, upgraded trim and carpets and six-spoke alloy wheels

Anthony.

 

Looked in my '99 MGR brochure for the range and it states that leather is an option on both the iL and iXL.

Could be a misprint in the MGR specifications section I suppose, but I looked at at least 3 iL's when buying the iXL and non had leather.

Quite likes the iS seats, but the rest of the trim was spartan. No electric wing mirrors, tweeters, rear electrics or headrests.

 

It's very odd how you saw 3 400 il's and none had leather Stu. It was standard (someone in work had one which had full leather with piping). Was it a delete option perhaps? This is highly unlikely I would have thought.

Here's a press release from 1999 from MGR which seems to corroborate what DLN and myself are saying.

http://www.cwn.org.uk/motoring/rover/press-releases/9906/990607-200-and-400-series.htm

Anthony.

 

I am not disputing what you are saying.

The brochure I have doesn't have it as standard and the ones I saw when looking at buying the 400 didn't.

I'm not really fussed either way and quite happy to take your word for it, just saying it as I have read and seen it.

I know someone at work with a T plate 416 iL, so I'll ask them next week if theirs has.

 

Rear disks are a lottery. There is no will or won't get it dependant on model.

He's right. My 400 D has rear discs & if there was ever a car that didn't need them, then mine was it. Has vented front stoppers too - bizzare!
To confuse things even further it now has GSDi interior, Tomcat wheels, etc...

DD.

 

Just to elaborate a bit. I also have six spoke alloys and lovely deep lush carpets on and in the iL. Is there any difference in the bhp figures for any of the models ?. It seems that there are so many specs. around that if you were going to choose a car to buy on specification you would have a major headache.

 

All 416's of that year were the same bhp.

Spec is only a guide, it could have lots of options, or even items removed. Second hand you have to look carefully.

 

I bought my iL 2nd hand and didnt really look at the spec. I took it for a drive and was impressed with the performance. That it had leather was a bonus but I wouldnt say I just bought it just for that or any of the extras really. If I was buying a new car I probably would be more choosy.

 

Definately.

Second hand you find the one that best suits your requirements in a colour you like at a price you are willing to pay. It's down to luck as to what is available.

Having now placed an order for a new car, it's far easier. You set a budget, choose the spec and extra's you want with the colour you fancy and go haggle with the dealer.