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Reducing the weight of TF

7.3K views 17 replies 12 participants last post by  andy  
#1 ·
Hypothetically, what could you do to remove weight from a TF?

It stand at 1100kgs where as an Elise is at 850kgs. So, we've got 250kgs to get rid.

First thoughts:

Wheels - how much do standard wheels weigh?
Brakes - I've heard you can get discs that have an alloy centre peice to get you a few extra kgs saving.
Interior - how much does an electric window winder cost?
Spare wheel - bin it.

But what else can be done?
 
#4 ·
petevick said:
the insulation above the engine access weighs in a fair bit. Fibreglass boot/bonnet. Dump the soft top frame, fit a racing f/g hard top (if you must). Depends how far you want to go.
The problem is that you need to lighten the front and rear by similar amounts to retain the balance, if you shed too much from just the front the car will under steer and feel very light at speed. It’s quite difficult to shed any significant amount from the rear as there is not much you can remove.
 
#5 ·
passanger seat, dashboard, carpet, swap to lightweight wheels, fiberglass panals theres a company in swindon that will copy a oe part and swap it for a carbon fiber copy,

lose softtop, shorten fuel tank, remove sound deading, replace windows with perspects, remove ignition, remove window winders.

jesus you could replace the whole car mate it all depends how extreame you wanna go?

but one things for certain i could defintly get you under the 850 mark :)
 
#9 ·
As Sharky has said, it's not simply a case of shedding weight, rather it is all about shedding it from the right places.

The F/TF has a 45/55 weight balance front/rear, shedding weight fromt he front therefore is a bad idea, so GRP / carbon fibre bonnet/wings etc are not advisable unless you can shed a similar amount from the rear to counter balance it.

Your best bet is to start with the cabin and maybe look at a carbon boot lid - not much else you can loose from the rear end after this.
 
#11 ·
Scarlet Fever said:
Your best bet is to start with the cabin and maybe look at a carbon boot lid - not much else you can loose from the rear end after this.
Perhaps you could save a decent ammount on the exhaust system (small damper and remove the cat)
Also MS does a lightweight subframe doesn't hè ?
MS's adjustable rear tie bar will save weight.
Drilled disks on the rear when upgrading braking
Lose the VVC mechanism if you have one and switch to solid cams.
 
#16 ·
mg_xpower said:
(for example) DVA power gets the K-series well over 200bhp without the (heavier) VVC mechanism so it would be an option for losing weight IMHO.
The VVC mechanism probably only wieghs 2-3KG more than standrad solid cams, so not worth the hassle. If you remove the VVC cams, you have to fit a blaking plate kit, which would add the weight back on anyway :lol: + you would instantly loose 25BHP.
The reason DVA used to revome the VVC mech, was because the mappable ECU's they use could not control the VVC mechanisms. But last year that changed, they developed the ECU's and they now have that capability so there is now no reason to remove them, and also no reason why a VVC could not be tuned to 200BHP :D
 
#17 ·
Going back a few years, the official weight for the MGF was as follows:

MPi - 1045kgs
VVC - 1060kgs

Not sure where the extra 15kgs came from, but ABS & EPAS (standard on VVC, optional on MPi) probably only account for a small proportion of the weight difference. VVC alloys and half leather seats don't weigh a great deal more than the fabric and MPi alloys - leaving the engine bay.

I suspect the majority of the weight gain is the VVC plenum, manifold and mechanism combined - this is extra weight, and it is in the wrong place on the car (the rear), but in the big sceme of things, is probably not worth worrying about i reckon.
 
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