Loaky, check this (if not done already):
http://www.mgfcar.de/fog_lights/index_tf.htm

I have no masterplan tho

 

Cheers herbie, yeah i'm looking at another thread you posted that link on so just looking at it now.

 

Also confusing is the fact i've got a relay for them, and there seems to be one wired into the harness already.. I presume I don't need to fit the one i've got?

I know it's an F harness that Kris fitted TF plugs to, if that helps anyone..

 

I've got some kind of bizarre hybrid fusebox as mine looks nothing like one of the pictures i've seen yet, after all this time of getting bits and pieces here and there i'm on the verge of binning the ******* lot!

 

Don't let them annoy you mate......
I wouldn't be better by the way, .... electrics :fim:

 

wait till I get home Jon, see if I can 'find' anything that'll help yee

 

Cheers Pete, i'll get a torch ready!

 

Here's another pictiure better showing the section i'm on about..

 

Hi Loaky!

I've sent you the MGF foglight fitting instructions haven't i!? I have got the TF ones here in front of me! I can post them if you want, but i would imagine you need them now?
Also, one thing i didn't realise is you have the very latest style fusebox, so i'm not sure how accurate my TF ones will be as it pictures the earlier looking fusebox in the diagrams!
I'll post a link in a mo' if i can get the damn thing exported from Adobe!!

 

Yes mate you sent me the TF ones with the loom, but must of been an early design as the pictures didn't look diddly like mine. I know my car is November 03 so as you say maybe a later design.

You could email the F ones too if you like mate, maybe using both TF and F wiring instructions I can make some kinda hybrid / bodge that works!

 

Loaky!

21. Insert red/ black wire connector into connection 4 of fuse box.
22. Insert brown wire connector into connection 5 of fuse box.

This obviously is for the older style fusebox, so you will need see if you have any free conectors available on your fusebox.
Let me know how you get on.

 

You might be onto something when you mention the brown wire on the bottom of the front fusebox, there's a few brown wires going in, and a spare socket. (see picture below)

Which leaves me to the red / black wire with the same connector, where would he live?

This is assuming the red / yellow wire goes into the space in thge connecter block I found.

If i'm right so far i'm going to have to extend the brown wire to reach, which is the best route to follow (one fusebox to the other)?

Also so i'm not working completely blind does someone have a key to what the wires actually are/ and what there job is?

Front fuse box..

 

Basically mate...

Red/Orange = i would imagine is just for the telltale.
Brown = Main 12v +Pos feed. You take from anywhere really!
Black = Earth
Red/Black = Normally illumination, but obviously is used so you can only turn the fogs on while the main lights are on and not while the ignition or main lights are off.

Hope this helps.

I must have sent you early TF diagrams, as i can't find my MGF ones! You know my phone number anyway, so if you need me just give me a bell!

 

Dunno if that helps for the moment Loaky / Kris ?

http://www.mgfcar.de/schedules/index.htm

 

Red/Orange = i would imagine is just for the telltale.
Don't really get what you mean by telltale..

Brown = Main 12v +Pos feed. You take from anywhere really!
I get that :broon:

Black = Earth
I get that :broon:

Red/Black = Normally illumination, but obviously is used so you can only turn the fogs on while the main lights are on and not while the ignition or main lights are off.
Think I get that, finding a home for it though looses me.. :errx2:

 

Once I have had a bite to eat I will go and have a look at mine to see if I can spot a Red/Orange and Red/Black wires and connectors. Mine has the latter fusebox and fogs so we should be able to work it out from that, although mine will have a TF harness not a modded F one.

Edit: According to the wiring diamgram in the workshop manual, the orange/red wire goes from the relay to the switch, and the red/black goes though a fuse (number 26) which is in turn connected to the lamps?

 

If you could have a look mate that would be fantastic, any pictures you can get that look similar to mine would be great. :broon:

 

This any use?

 

Seen that befor eI think, i'll have a look

 

Hi Loaky,
The telltale is the little light on the switch that lights up when the button is pressed to tell you they are active! This would just be a permanent live also i would imagine as it is earthed through the relay according to my diagram! The red a black wire would need to come from a scource that is only available once the headlights are on. So you could take it direct from the headlight if you wanted. I would give you colours but i don't have any late TF wiring schematics on me at this time! If you were in the area i would just say pop down and i'll wire it in for you! I can't remember your address but i'm fairly sure your not in 'popping in' distance! lol.

 

Hi Loaky,
The telltale is the little light on the switch that lights up when the button is pressed to tell you they are active! This would j....i would just say pop down and i'll wire it in for you! I can't remember your address but i'm fairly sure your not in 'popping in' distance! lol.

ah I get what you mean now, ok now I have a 'vague' understanding of what all the wires are doing!

And yeah I think it's out of the 'popping in' radius but if I can't mackle something together I might take you up on that!

 

any one with a set of fogs and wiring kit they wanna get rid of im looking to buy one for my car !

any help would be excellent cheers

 

I'd PM Kris mate if you can't source one, see previous threads, that's where I got mine, he might be able to source one.

 

appologises for jumping in to the middle of it loaky

 

Dont know if these will be of any use?

I think the wiring for the fogs is on the right of the pics as this is where the relay is, as mine seems to have more wires here than yours.

 

that looks identical to mine, albeit a little bit cleaner.

the slim red/yellow wire I had, I traced that to the connected block above the fusebox, the middle one with the most pins.

Does the power for yours come off that under bonnet fusebox or not?

 

With a mate at the moment, he thinks the brown can be cut in any brown as it has an inline fuse, but the red/black wire cut into red on ignition switch.
Orange red in connecter above fuse box, like I said, telltale as kris said.

And I presume just use the relay and wiring already in the harness and not worry about the relay i've got to fit in the fuse box.

And the earths in the relevant places.

What do you all make of that??

 

Any results today Jon ?

 

No mate no ones touched the thread since yesterday, hopefully seeing a friend of mine tomorrow night who is a bit cleverer than me with things like that, so who knows!

Feel free to add anything guys, even if it is only to make me look an idiot! :lol:

 

Aww all will be cool. If it was me, could've been a thread about 60 pages :haha:

 

I would connect the brown to any brown.

The brown wires are generally the feed from the battery into the fusebox. Therefore with its inline fuse, it would be fine to take an unfused feed.

Can you PM me some details of the loom you have (photos, instructions etc) and I will see if I can help.

 

How you gettin on mate? Maybe I can give you a hand at the weekend?

 

Going around a mates house tomorrow he's more electrically minded so he'll have a good crack at it.

And CJ i'll get some snaps of the loom tomorrow mate.