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My 180 runs on Mobil 1 because "I always promised myself I would have a car that used fully synthetic".

Now I have noticed what I believe to be tappet noise on startup so I think I should change to Magnatec.

However, what a surprise! there are so many kinds! Forgetting the "diesel grade" for a start there is 5W40, 10W40 and 15W40.

5W40 sounds a bit thin if I am concerned about oil supply to the engine. My car being fairly new, I don't know if I want the thickest sort either. Should I be looking for 10W40?

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magnatec made my 180 tap like mad, this has been sid by a few others on XPF too, im running semi synth halfords on my last 3 oil changes and it runs like a deam now
 

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magnatec made my 180 tap like mad, this has been sid by a few others on XPF too, im running semi synth halfords on my last 3 oil changes and it runs like a dream now
I'm only doing one oil change a year, don't want to chance further ticky ticky ticky, besides I can't believe that at current prices, 6L of Magnatec would be £47 at Halfords when I paid £30 for 6L of Mobil 1 only four years ago! :yikes: (OK petrol's gone up a bit ;), too)

So maybe thinking "I must use Magnatec" was jumping the gun a bit... ;)

so would that be 10W40 Halfords? (I'm sure other brands are available - just post a link to an oil choice thread if appropriate).

Thanks also, shroonie...
 

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Do not worry about tapping on start up all the K series engines we have had have done it. It soon goes away. Use the oil of the correct grades that you feel happy with. I have always used Halfords fully synthetic after the first 3000 miles from new. Largest mileage on on engine so far is 79000 on my V6. No oil burn and emissions at MOT hardly recordable. I change it 2x a year but thats me.
 

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Regarding grade MGR state 10-40 but with many oils the fully synthetics far out perform and the grade range is wider.
 

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I did have a look through the tips in the oil forum on the "grey/green side" http://forums.xpowerforums.com/search.php?searchid=698705&pp=25 but they weren't conclusive.

Maybe "just because of a bit of tapping on start-up" is not a good reason to ditch fully synthetic. I have no oil usage over a year (maybe 6000 miles) and it runs beautifully otherwise.

Mind you, I tend to think of 6L of Mobil 1 costing £30. More like £60 now. :yikes: Maybe I should switch to Halfords - my Halfords battery has given tip-top performance over two years.

Synthetic = £36

Semi = £26...

(NB I say "Halfords" because I can walk away with the oil in my hands and I know where it is...)

I'll give myself another week to think...
 

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My next oil change I will not be buying halfords oil. My 1998 416 16v has developed a rattle from the hydraullic lifters. It has never done this in the 4 years before we started using halfords oil, only since I have put some halfords 10w40 in.

My last car a 1999 214 16v was fine when I first started driving it but when I put halfords stuff in I noticed a tapping from a lifter upon startup.

I think what it is is halfords oil is ok when new but only lasts about 4k miles before it makes the lifters rattle.
 

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Thinking about it, if a couple of seconds of "tappy tappy tappy" on start-up are not so concerning, then really I should stick with what I know after I have got the car to this point. Even 6L of Mobil 1 cost "only" about a tankful of petrol.

BTW Tesco fully synthetic is now £6/l (or was it £6.99?) in the litre bottles, so 6L of it comes to about the same as Halfords. Shame about the plastic, though.
 

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This is always a topic that has ifs, buts dos and don'ts with it. The question is Who makes the oil for Halfords? Harry's chippie? No, I bet it is the same plant that makes Castrol and Mobil. This was all produced at Stanlow until the beginning of this year when production was switched to another plant. It was news at the time on Radio Merseyside as there was a fear of job losses. So your Castrol and Mobil flowed from the same plant and I no doubt Halfords oil did the same. Several years ago Halfords would tell you who made their branded products and at the time Esso made the oils. I have since heard that Silkolene have made them. I now think that they come from a Shell/Mobil/Texaco plant that makes Castrol and Mobil oils too. We have an oil plant that makes oils that are big in Motor Bike racing near to. They get all their base oils from Stanlow and blend. I know this as last year I was interested in marketing specialist oils and greases for another interest of mine. They would do this for me witha minimum order of 30 ltrs. So it really is your choice to go for whatever you feel happy with. If you fancy Magnatec, try National Tyres for the job inc filter £25. You can have Castrol Edge for £35
 

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Changing to 10w60 fully synthetic made my tappet clicking go away and furthermore it doesn't drain oil into the air filter housing which did it with the 5w40 before.
 

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Changing to 10w60 fully synthetic made my tappet clicking go away and furthermore it doesn't drain oil into the air filter housing which did it with the 5w40 before.
There you are another view from The Stig. Top notch oil there with a grade of 10w-60 and a very high protection rate. I bet that the bit extra summer grade of 60 really does give a good cushioning to the tappets and sorts the initial tappet clatter. Well worth the extra if you think it is better.
 

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There you are another view from The Stig. Top notch oil there with a grade of 10w-60 and a very high protection rate. I bet that the bit extra summer grade of 60 really does give a good cushioning to the tappets and sorts the initial tappet clatter. Well worth the extra if you think it is better.
10W60 was specifically mentioned on the grey and green side as a "really thick oil that's not really suited for road use" or similar.

I think we all know I might just as well ask

"which petrol is the best for the 180?"

and try to get Carl to admit he likes Tesco petrol for the Clubcard points and the ability to buy snacks. ;)

There is no one right answer to that question and I am glad for the opinion that a little tappet noise on startup (which made me think I SHOULD change, and change to Magnatec) is not such an issue, at which point I'm probably best to continue with what I've been doing for the last four years...

As for branded oils, Castrol is, of course, a brand of BP while I always associate Mobil with BP because many former Mobil petrol stations became BP, but Wikipedia tells me that, globally, ExxonMobil is a competitor of BP (BP also includes Amoco and ARCO)...
 

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You guys are aware that the oil consistency is almost like water when hot?
So never mind that 10w60 is too thick.
Only issue would be in winter when 10w60 is quite thick at cold starts, but then you have the same issue with the 10w40 which is oe spec so OK too.
Y not spending 15 quid more for top notch oil?
 

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there's no easy answer. You'll see other opinions about Australian 10W60 in my link to the grey and green side.

By the way, are there still BP petrol stations in Germany or have they now been rebranded "ARAL"?

Oh yes, Stig, we knew you were German but we never knew you were Michael Schumacher!
 

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there's no easy answer. You'll see other opinions about Australian 10W60 in my link to the grey and green side.
Just read that, but I just can state it again. Never mind which oil, all of them are almost liquid like water when hot. So the thickness issue is not one in my opinion...
By the way, are there still BP petrol stations in Germany or have they now been rebranded "ARAL"?
I can remember seeing a BP petrol station when I was a child, but not any more. ARAL petrol stations are all over Germany...
Oh yes, Stig, we knew you were German but we never knew you were Michael Schumacher!
I know, Schumacher insisted to be myself. But that's wrong. That Montezemolo guy just denied to hand the FXX out to my trembling hands. :D
 

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It is worth shopping around, I now use Quantum Synta Gold fully synthetic 5w40, I paid £35 for 10 litres (VW Audi oil). So try a few other manufacturers parts department you may be surprised! I too checked Halfords but became confused with the variety and price hikes! I'm sticking to the Quantum, if it is good enough for the high end VWs and Audi's then it is good enough for the MG. It even states on the back as suitable for Porsche, MG Rover etc etc

Vauxhall tend to have offers on their oils from time to time, as said check out the offers Opie Oils are having.
 

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You can get 5L bottles of 10w40 Magnatec for £22 at my local Asda... Check your local big supermarket patpending, some good savings to be had there!
 

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...I can remember seeing a BP petrol station when I was a child, but not any more. ARAL petrol stations are all over Germany...
I remember going to BP stations e.g. in Deggendorf in 1994. There were a couple in Munich, and they had the reputation of being quite cheap. Now I think all BP stations in Germany are ARAL though HQ is somewhere like Bochum...
 
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