hi all ,just thought I'd give us all a little summit to smile about; ok a couple of weeks ago my brother bought yet another bmw off of ebay ,now as he lives in kent ,I live in the lakes ,and the car was in north lancs I think you can guess what the outcome was ;yes I,ve had a bavarian sierra sat on my drive for a fortnight until I could find the time to deliver it to him (oh the shame fellow roverphiles) I am off to kent today in it ,so last night i thought I'd better give it a run out to identify any possible probs before setting off today ,my wee lassie decided to tag along and as it was a nice day not unreasonably put her window down (I think you can see where this is heading ) . Driving it to work last night i thought I'd better put it back up ,hit the switch ,loud snapping noise and the bloody thing fell out of its runners in a rover 600 stylee ,ha ha ha ultimate driving machine my arse ,so guess what I'll be doing this afternoon ? brothers who needs them,regards ,andy:eyes: