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#1 ·
HI all,

I bought my first Trophy 160 last week. IT seems good I have to say. It does have a brand new engine and I have been told to 'drive it in'. How long should this be for? Anyone know? Is the car rear-wheel drive? I was pushing the car slighty today and the front end slipped away from me. Is this normal? Also, there are one or two strange whining noises and screaming sounds coming from the engine (occasionally), is this normal too?
 
#2 ·
Yes RWD. Understeer is normal due to to thinner tyres on the front as apposed to the rear, giving you less front end grip.

Not sure what "whirring" and "sceaming" sounds you exactly mean, couldnt tell you without a good quality sound clip of some sort.
 
#4 ·
Very important not to 'push it' until everything is completely warmed up as amongst other things (like losing coolant) this can cause head gasket problems (the dreaded HGF!)

Do you have any nice pics to show us?

And :welcome: ;)
 
#7 ·
The car is yellow, in excellent nick really. The hood jams open sometimes when i try and put it back. Actually, im having trouble with this site, it took me ages to find your replies to my questions. Can anyone help me with a quick 'get-around' in this site then please? I have no pics of the car yet, ive only had it a few days.
 
#10 ·
Actually, im having trouble with this site, it took me ages to find your replies to my questions. Can anyone help me with a quick 'get-around' in this site then please?

Threads can drop off the first page of the forum fairly quickly at times so in the future an easy way to find replies to threads that you've posted in is by clicking 'User CP' then click on the link on the left to 'Edit Options'. If you scroll down you'll see a 'Default Thread Subscription Mode drop down box - if you change that to one of the options on there (which option to choose depends if you want email notifications of replies or not).

Next time you log into .Org you can then click on User CP and it will show all the threads you've subscribed to that have new posts in since your last visit. When you click on one of those to take you to the thread, you should see on the left a link for 'View first unread' and clicking this will take you to the first message posted since you were last logged in.

Hope at least some of that make sense :lol:
 
#8 ·
Hood jamming is quite normal, this can be corrected by buying some anti-jam straps off eBay or you can place your hand on the middle bar and move it backwards as your dropping the hood
 
#12 ·
Inca Yellow?

SO, is the yellow colour of our cars called 'Inca Yellow'?

Has anybody got a spare hardtop I can have?

Where do I buy decent yellow snap on parts? eg fan outlets, hand-brake, footpedal covers etc?
 
#9 ·
Ah, another yellow Trophy on here ::trophy: - and not too far from me. Welcome to the forums.

There shouldn't be any screaming noises, a light tapping sound isn't uncommon. As Jan suggests, check the alternator belt.

Running in well will reap benefits in the future. Yes, keep the engine revs below 3500 or so but most importantly, use a light throttle and don't labour the engine with too much throttle at very low revs.

The 'new to the forum, hints and tips' sticky at the top of this forum has a lot of good links to useful threads, including your hood problem (ease the second hoop backwards as you lift the top back) failing that use the advanced search and fill in as many boxes as you can but unfortunatelly VBulletin doesn't support multiple word searches. You'll quickly find you way around.
 
#11 · (Edited)
Just a comment about putting your hood down. You may already know this, but below around 8C, the plastic rear window becomes quite brittle. If you do fold the hood down at or below this temperature, make sure you undo the velcro and unzip the rear screen, then lay it flat before you put the hood down. If you fold the rear screen at these temperatures, it could crack. Some people are in the habit of unzipping all the time, just to be sure.

(Unless of course you already have a glass rear window!)
 
#14 ·
what yellow is it?

SO, is the yellow colour of our cars called 'Inca Yellow'?

Has anybody got a spare hardtop I can have?

Where do I buy decent yellow snap on parts? eg fan outlets, hand-brake, footpedal covers etc?
 
#15 ·
SO, is the yellow colour of our cars called 'Inca Yellow'?
its Trophy Yellow

.Has anybody got a spare hardtop I can have?..
ebay, but the last Trophy Yellow one I saw on there was when I sold mine over 3 years ago.

...Where do I buy decent yellow snap on parts? eg fan outlets, hand-brake, footpedal covers etc?
what do you mean by fan outlets, the air intakes on the rear side panels ??, and yellow foot pedal covers :wtf: :shake:
 
#19 ·
HI all,
I was pushing the car slighty today and the front end slipped away from me. Is this normal?
I would check the make of tyres fitted to the front (and the back). More often than not a mismatched set of tyres is fitted which can affect the handling quite dramatically. Also check the tyre pressures (I would recommend 28psi all round). Never had any problems with understeer even driving around Silverstone.
 
#20 ·
and.....

Ok, ignorant question coming here from me. So....I have a trophy 160 in Yellow. Is it an MGF or an MGTF? And what is the difference???? Im new to Mg, please excuse me for asking that. Im asking because if I want to buy some tarty spare parts for my interior, I dont want to get the wrong model parts. Also, where can I get extra stuff for my interior in yellow??
 
#22 ·
Ok, ignorant question coming here from me. So....I have a trophy 160 in Yellow. Is it an MGF or an MGTF? And what is the difference???? Im new to Mg, please excuse me for asking that. Im asking because if I want to buy some tarty spare parts for my interior, I dont want to get the wrong model parts. Also, where can I get extra stuff for my interior in yellow??
The Trophy is an MGF and only MK2 parts will fit (interior wise)
Spraying is your best bet
 
#21 ·
and also......

Hello yet again everyone,

Now, I've had the trophy 160 for a couple of weeks and today I needed to brake quite sharply. The car easily and instantly went into a skid and the braking wasn't overly impressive. Is this normal? Clearly the car does not have ABS, and this is something that surprises me. Later on I decided to test the brakes some more, on an empty road (of course) and it really does go into a skid at the slightest suggestion of anything other than normal slowing down. Advice please.
 
#24 ·
Hello yet again everyone,

Now, I've had the trophy 160 for a couple of weeks and today I needed to brake quite sharply. The car easily and instantly went into a skid and the braking wasn't overly impressive. Is this normal? Clearly the car does not have ABS, and this is something that surprises me. Later on I decided to test the brakes some more, on an empty road (of course) and it really does go into a skid at the slightest suggestion of anything other than normal slowing down. Advice please.
Most Trophys do not have ABS - only later ones had it fitted. If the car skidded easily then the brakes seem to be working fine, either the road surface was slippery or the tyres are not up to the job especially if the front is slipping away from you.
 
#28 ·
Hi Steve,

Just some thoughts on your posts, its worth checking the ride height as when the susspension was overinflated in our F there was bad front end understear.

I would also suggest checking all 4 tyres as the F/TF are fussy when it comes to tyres. Let us know what brands and sizes you have.

With regards to brakes, the brakes in our F are pretty rubbush to be honest, but it is an older F. I believe there are upgraded brakes available, maybe worth looking into as you have the 160vvc.

Good luck.

Another Steve.
 
#30 · (Edited)
Oh, meant to add...

The TF models are direct replacemnts for the outgoing F ones, but with power hikes on three of the four variants, therefore :

TF 115 - 1.6 MPi (115PS) replaces MGF 1.6 MPi (105PS)

TF 120 Stepspeed - 1.8 MPi (120PS) Automatic replaces MGF Steptronic 1.8 MPi (120PS) (although this is largely the same engine/gearbox configuration)

TF 135 - 1.8 MPi (135PS) replaces MGF 1.8 MPi (120PS)

TF 160 - 1.8 VVC (160PS) replaces MGF 1.8 VVC (145PS)

I am not sure what was done to the 1.6 to get another 10hp, but suspect it was primarily breathing modifications. In the case of the TF 135, you can add the air intake system from the Trophy 160 to a 52mm throttle body, VVC style alloy inlet plenum and manifold and reprofiled cams to get the extra 15 horses. While the TF 160 has the same engine as the later Trophy 160 MGF more or less.

I'm sure someone will come along soon with some more details on the TF LE/SE models too. The Spark/Sprint and Cool Blue models i find very similar, but i can tell you that the Sunstorm came with a hardtop and that the 80th Anniversary LE came in three colours, 2 classed a 'Contemporary' - Black or silver with a red hood and silver dash and a third classed as a 'Heritage' model, in Goodwood Green (aka Aquamarine) with a tan hood & interior colourway and a walnut dash pack - they only made 1600 80th LEs.
 
#32 ·
Thank you to evryone so far.

Hello everyone,

Me again. Thank you all for your advice up until this point. Now I have some more questions.

1) On the subject of Revs.....today I drove from Salisbury to Canturbury and back. Whilst on the journey, i noticed a couple of things.

a) I got 135 out of it and it had some left to give.
b) In 4th gear, if I keep accelerating and 'screw the nuts' out of the (brand new) engine...it hits 7000 revs and then goes rrr rrr rrr rrr and judders about a bit. At this point I had already left the little **** in his Lotus Elan SE in my dust. Is this normal, I presume the engine has some kind of device that stops you from making it blow up and puts a stop on over-revving at about 7000rpm?

2) From the very kind advice you wonderful people have offered so far, you have mentioned that my 160 is not being used properly unless the revs are at 5000rpm or more. Now, in 5th gear, with the engine at 5000rpm, I am doing about 110mph. Surely this is against the law??? Advice please.

3) I noticed several mgf drivers on the roads today. None of them were 160s but they were mgfs all the same. I flashed my lights and waved at them all and none of them responded. Is this normal or are they jeallous of my splendid yellow rocket??

4) Somebody in a BRG MGF pulled alongside me, already doing about 80mph. He gave me a quick glance and then accelerated and wanted to race me. 5 seconds later he was going very quickly backwards in my violently shaking rear-view mirror. Was he a bit wet or is my car loads more powerful than most other mgfs?

Additionally, I am an increasingly wealthy businessman, having gone into business recently after leaving the Army after 22 years. I am considering 'souping-up' my 160 by putting a mental engine in it. Advice please. Will a porsche 911 fit in there? Or something from a tvr maybe? Is there a 200mph mgf anywhere or shall I build the first? Already it is a bit hairy at 135mph though, the suspension is frightening me a bit.

5) My sun-visors are seriously pants. Is this normal and are there good replacements out there?
 
#34 ·
Hello everyone,

Me again. Thank you all for your advice up until this point. Now I have some more questions.

1) On the subject of Revs.....today I drove from Salisbury to Canturbury and back. Whilst on the journey, i noticed a couple of things.

a) I got 135 out of it and it had some left to give.
b) In 4th gear, if I keep accelerating and 'screw the nuts' out of the (brand new) engine...it hits 7000 revs and then goes rrr rrr rrr rrr and judders about a bit. At this point I had already left the little **** in his Lotus Elan SE in my dust. Is this normal, I presume the engine has some kind of device that stops you from making it blow up and puts a stop on over-revving at about 7000rpm?

2) From the very kind advice you wonderful people have offered so far, you have mentioned that my 160 is not being used properly unless the revs are at 5000rpm or more. Now, in 5th gear, with the engine at 5000rpm, I am doing about 110mph. Surely this is against the law??? Advice please.

3) I noticed several mgf drivers on the roads today. None of them were 160s but they were mgfs all the same. I flashed my lights and waved at them all and none of them responded. Is this normal or are they jeallous of my splendid yellow rocket??

4) Somebody in a BRG MGF pulled alongside me, already doing about 80mph. He gave me a quick glance and then accelerated and wanted to race me. 5 seconds later he was going very quickly backwards in my violently shaking rear-view mirror. Was he a bit wet or is my car loads more powerful than most other mgfs?

Additionally, I am an increasingly wealthy businessman, having gone into business recently after leaving the Army after 22 years. I am considering 'souping-up' my 160 by putting a mental engine in it. Advice please. Will a porsche 911 fit in there? Or something from a tvr maybe? Is there a 200mph mgf anywhere or shall I build the first? Already it is a bit hairy at 135mph though, the suspension is frightening me a bit.

5) My sun-visors are seriously pants. Is this normal and are there good replacements out there?
No one has replied to your post... I wonder why.

It is not such a good idea bragging about hitting 135 and 'still having some left'. This is not a Boy Racer community.

b) You hit the rev limiter. The Lotus driver probably has more respect for his 20 year old car.

2) Correct. Slow down. If you hit the rev limiter in 2nd you are already close to the legal limit in most places except a German Autobahn.

3) Keep waving. You will get a return wave eventually.

4) Buy a TVR. You can then be illegal much faster.

5) Yes, and no.
 
#33 ·
And another thing

Hi all again,

no-one has replied to my last post.

oh well

Anyway, today i was driving my new 160 and whilst going round a roundabout, i stepped on the gas just ever so slightly more than you might normally, not a lot, just a tiny bit more...and the back-end of the car spun out. I would expect this to happen if i was caning it, but i wasnt. Im wondering if teh suspension is set up properly. SO can anyone advise me of a decent mg knowledgable mechanic near salisbury who can look at it and maybe set it up properly???

thanks for any advice given

Steve A-W
 
#35 ·
Hi all again,

no-one has replied to my last post.

oh well

Anyway, today i was driving my new 160 and whilst going round a roundabout, i stepped on the gas just ever so slightly more than you might normally, not a lot, just a tiny bit more...and the back-end of the car spun out. I would expect this to happen if i was caning it, but i wasnt. Im wondering if teh suspension is set up properly. SO can anyone advise me of a decent mg knowledgable mechanic near salisbury who can look at it and maybe set it up properly???

thanks for any advice given

Steve A-W
Well are you sure it wasn't the road conditions rather than the suspension setup?? What tyres do you have fitted?? What are the tyre pressures?? Is the suspension at the right ride height??
 
#37 ·
i think this guy is having a laugh!

erm 22 years in the Army and behave's like a 16 yr old boy racer!!!

Plus if he is such an increasingly wealthy business man then why but a TF? why not a DB9 or something......
 
#40 ·
a) I got 135 out of it and it had some left to give.

1) I'm sorry, but you sound like a complete clot (and I'm using that word as an alternative to a less polite epithet with the same first and last letters). 135 on any road between Salisbury and Canterbury in conditions such as those we had today (patchy black ice, busy motorways) is so irresponsible as to be worthy of sectioning, let alone a mere driving ban.

2) Doing it in an MGF, which frankly isn't designed for those sort of speeds is equally dim-witted, especially as it's a car that you don't know, and in whose handling you don't have complete confidence, marks you out as a bull-shotter of the highest order, or a gibbering imbecile.

3) It's my business, because irresponsible, stupid twits (again, I'm using an alternative word, when I mean one with a different vowel) like you give soft top drivers generally a bad name, and, worse, kill innocent drivers who happen to be on the same piece of road on which you are practising your latest piece of lunacy.

b) In 4th gear, if I keep accelerating and 'screw the nuts' out of the (brand new) engine...it hits 7000 revs and then goes rrr rrr rrr rrr and judders about a bit.

1) You don't recognise a rev limiter, then?

2) You don't want your 'brand new engine' to last, nor even to perform well by running it in properly?

At this point I had already left the little **** in his Lotus Elan SE in my dust.

1) A disproportionate number of Elans today are driven by mid-ranking Police officers. I hope this was one of them and that your details are now highlighted on the PNC.

2) Since your hairdresser's yellow MG has significantly less power than an Elan, and is considerably heavier, the only reason that you can have left any Elan behind is that he was driving rather more sensibly than you were, and that he had more developed risk perception. I'm not going to be hypocritical and pretend that I potter around at 70 mph or less all the time, but there's a reason that the Police impose automatic bans for speeds significantly over 100 mph - even for cars whose handling allows it, and even if you are caught doing so in the middle lane of a dry, well-lit, empty motorway.

No offence meant to MGF drivers (you seem like a thoroughly good bunch, generally:URGOD:) nor to hairdressers, but this chump's '****' jibe needed answering in kind, since his general demeanour suggests to me that he's probably rather insecure in his own masculinity and sexuality. (And the Elan's not a car for the small - let alone 'little poofs' - and as a result we don't have so many 'lovely ladies' driving the Elan as you have driving the MGF).
 
#42 ·
...........No offence meant to MGF drivers (you seem like a thoroughly good bunch, generally:URGOD:) nor to hairdressers, but this chump's '****' jibe needed answering in kind, since his general demeanour suggests to me that he's probably rather insecure in his own masculinity and sexuality. (And the Elan's not a car for the small - let alone 'little poofs' - and as a result we don't have so many 'lovely ladies' driving the Elan as you have driving the MGF).
no offence taken by me, I agree totally with your eloquent post. I also agree with michielb that this thread has run its course.
 
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