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Link does not activate for me. Still puzzled that in my "preview" and post subsequenty, all illustrations loud and clear. Not now though....:unsure:
 

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I'm finding this new format user unfriendly. I clicked on your details and no send message facility option as was once the case.
 

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Over the past couple of weeks I have been getting the "perforated" sills cut out and patched on two little Rovers. A Rover 25 and a 214 respectively owned by my two sons.

The 214 was patched today and I was able to take a few images by flash camera in the dark just before my older son drove it away.

These images show the work involved. My son was pleased with his 214 which needed an extensive patch fully one metre long under the nearside sill, mainly to cover the area directly under the B Pillar.

When we had a chance to look at the welding work, we were pleased with the job. Quite neat and tidy and a vast improvement over what things were like before the repairs. Yes, better end product than I had expected. Very pleased especially considering what we were charged. About £220 for both cars in total. The Rover 25 needed both sides doing including the tricky area of the rear wheel arch. That car passed the Mot soon after. The 214's MoT due in a week or so.

Boy oh Boy... Have I had my fill of sills lately. One of the rear arches on my 620ti may need some welding... Rubbish British cars. It's only just over twenty years old..... :)
Very good job. Well done mate! (y)
You would be amazed to notice that none of my 3 Rovers had or has any hint of rust.
I think British cars were not particularly badly made, not worse than any other: just a big difference with weather & parking conditions. Our weather is rather dry (but at the moment, one entire week of rain which is barely seen here!) and until now both my cars were garaged & dry. At the moment I need a solution for I've got three now!
 

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My comment about British cars was very "tongue in cheek". They are nowhere near as bad as our "unbiased" UK media negativity over too many years would have you believe. In fact over a lifetime of car ownership and use, including numerous company cars, my experiences using and working on them is mainly very favourable compared to foreign product. These include both French and German product.

The two cars featured in my post were cheap purchases. Not much more than loose change relatively speaking. The Silver 02-Reg Rover 25 bought with suspect damaged Cylinder Head Gasket ten years ago when my younger son needed transport to-from UNI in Bristol during his impoverished student days. I fixed that 25 and ten years on, still giving him reliable daily driver use every day. How bad is that. Being his first car, it's had a few digs and scrapes but, despite that, serves its purpose faultlessly.

The blue Rover 214 was even cheaper and used as a "hack" by my older son for duties he did not want his other cars to do. Those include a Lotus Elise and Rover 620ti. Bought well over six years ago now. Another project bought for little money needing damaged Head Gasket renewal which my son did soon after getting it. Reliable and economical motoring for little cost. The silver one passed the MoT soon after the sill welding work. Fitted with new UNIROYAL Rainsport 3 tyres the car handles and drives superbly considering how old it is and well over 100,000 miles on the clocks. Cars like this are superb value for getting about on any journey, long or short.

With near continuous rain over the past week or so, those Rainsport 3 tyres do what it says on the tin. Recommended.
 

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R25 passed its 2021 MOT. 2 advisories, unfortunately: Misty headlights and oil leak. Neither a total surprise. I worked on polishing the lights a few weeks ago, but may have to take them off for a more though job next year, and the cam cover gasket does seep a tiny bit, but a bit surprised to be picked up for it as it’s a pretty clean engine. :)
 

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Pre MOT service and checks on the R25 yesterday. Other than usual service stuff, fitted a new cam cover gasket as it was weeping oil. Found a hole in the exhaust mid section pipe. Got 2 quotes locally to do mid section and backbox, as the BB was in poor condition too: 260 & 380 GBP 😮

Therefore on my day off today sourced the parts and did it my self for ~110 GBP. 🙂
 

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I took off the rear silencer and patched a long corroded through hole in the side plus (with more difficulty) a hole in the inlet pipe close to the flange joint. This was simultaneously easier and more difficult than it should of been - easier 'cos I had the use of a two post hoist (thanks stepson), more difficult 'cos I couldn't use my own welder due to amperage limitations so was using an entry-level 10 Amp stick welder. Cannot entirely blame the tools that I kept blowing new holes through the metal! To the question "wouldn't it be easier to buy a new one" the answers yes, and no. Yes I can find one online however its an "aftermarket" and doesn't have the restrictor valve mechanism in one of the two tailpipes. In my currency that replacement was around 175 dollars with about the same cost again in freight but hey, if you live at the ends of the earth its gonna cost I thought. I had it on order up until I got a message that due to freight being calculated on an assumed weight per volumetric unit the actual weight meant the freight element would be 340 dollars. That's the point I thought you know what, I could do with some more welding practice. For now I've bought some time but can see I'm going to have to do something more permanent though as despite the shininess on the outside these exhausts are dual layer - a thin stainless leaf covering mild steel core, and mine's rotting through from the inside :(
 

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I think the original equipment exhausts were described as 'aluminised' which boiled down to a layer of aluminium rich paint over the steel.

If it is any help, I think MG Rover deleted the buterfly valve from the exhaust tailpipe on the TF160 from mid-2004, and I think later genuine MG Rover replacement back box sections for the ZR 160 did not feature it either. It was only fitted in the first place to enable the 160 to pass European drive-by noise regulations anyway.
 

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I think the original equipment exhausts were described as 'aluminised' which boiled down to a layer of aluminium rich paint over the steel.

If it is any help, I think MG Rover deleted the buterfly valve from the exhaust tailpipe on the TF160 from mid-2004, and I think later genuine MG Rover replacement back box sections for the ZR 160 did not feature it either. It was only fitted in the first place to enable the 160 to pass European drive-by noise regulations anyway.
Interesting - I've been having speaks with a local(ish) exhaust specialist (shoutout to bestmufflers.com ), he's told me that the valve is there to stop "droning" at steady speed on the motorway - reckons its a good move to the point where he's fitted one to his own daily drive car, also reckons a lot of "supercars," Maserati / Ferrari etc use similar systems. My cunning plan is to get one of the "universal" mufflers plus enough 2" pipe, mandrel bends etc to make a replacement - might even replace the "mid" section as well - and if I can possibly cut out the valve & graft it into a new tailpipe I'll do that as well.
 

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Good work Baldrick. Sounds like Bestmufflers could make you one? In the UK, at around 50GBP each for the BB (which rattled like it was full of gravel) and mis-section ( that had a hole in pipe ) I just replaced, as I don’t have welding equipment and I don’t want to have to crawl under the car mid winter to repatch! That was a standard single outlet exhaust (Klarius) though.
 

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MOT pass with no advisories :)

I worked to get it ready though. New rear brake shoes, adjusted handbrake, new cam cover gasket, new exhaust BB and MS, full service, ran through some cat cleaner product, clean and valet…. 😅
 

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I have a Rover 25 ,
16k4f engine
Zf vt1-321a transmission
I took it down today!!!! After 4 years of my car sitting there looking at me...like heyyyy fix me please hahaha

So apart from the current transmission model, Can I replace it with another Model transmission?
Lots of mechanics say honda should bolt up
But....... . Research says otherwise i don't know

Where I'm from, Rover is a RARE breed of car to come across so anything engine and transmission I ship it !!!! Lol
 

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I have a Rover 25 ,
16k4f engine
Zf vt1-321a transmission
I took it down today!!!! After 4 years of my car sitting there looking at me...like heyyyy fix me please hahaha

So apart from the current transmission model, Can I replace it with another Model transmission?
Lots of mechanics say honda should bolt up
But....... . Research says otherwise i don't know

Where I'm from, Rover is a RARE breed of car to come across so anything engine and transmission I ship it !!!! Lol
If manual transmission it will have and R65 or IB5 with a 1.6 K series engine. I think the IB5 transmission is better and was fitted to later cars, from around 2004 on. I have an IB5 on my current R25.

I replaced a problematic R65 transmission a few years ago on my Rover 214 with another R65 sourced from a UK car breakers. Obviously easier in the UK as there were quite a few Rovers being scrapped at the time. I would not swap transmission type, unless there is a good reason, you would have to make special mounts etc.
My R65 swap story here:
 

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If manual transmission it will have and R65 or IB5 with a 1.6 K series engine. I think the IB5 transmission is better and was fitted to later cars, from around 2004 on. I have an IB5 on my current R25.

I replaced a problematic R65 transmission a few years ago on my Rover 214 with another R65 sourced from a UK car breakers. Obviously easier in the UK as there were quite a few Rovers being scrapped at the time. I would not swap transmission type, unless there is a good reason, you would have to make special mounts etc.
My R65 swap story here:


Thanks for the advice ! You're right I got my hands on a IB5 gearbox locally.....its my last option though.......
I'll have to LEARN to drive manual..... hahahaha
I came across the Zf Vt1-27t (BMW mini 2001-2006)....all my searches on zf vt1-32a has stuff relating to the zf vt1-27t.....maybe it's a long shot......but will I'll see how it goes !
I'll give your Swap a read

:)
 
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