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Was there ever a better time ???

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#1 ·
Says it all really , was there ever a better time to buy a 75/ZT than right now .
I mean i ask you , a very decent 2.5 V6 or a 2.0 diesel circa 02 or 03 for a measly two or two and a half grand .
And lets face it it,s becoming a struggle to lay your hands on one unless your prepared to travel.

Ok we get folk on here with real problems with their cars but on the whole what a fantastic BIG car to have at your disposal .

Iv,e noticed recently more and more folk coming on saying SHOULD I BUY A 75/ZT ??? well the answer is yes , go get one and enjoy one of the best cruising cars around .

Add to that the knowledge on here and your onto a winner .


FLYER.:cloud9:
 
#3 ·
Spot on with those sentiments Flyer - but you've fogotten the V8, got to one of the best cars that MGR managed to put together considering their problems whilst they were doing it. Granted I'm probably bias having just bought one but it's one hell of a car.

Cheers
 
#5 ·
Down in our village there's a green 51 plate 75 for sale at a garage. It's been there for about 6/7 weeks and it started off for sale at ÂŁ1995.
I dont know what model it is, but 2 weeks ago they'd knocked it down to ÂŁ1695. I drove past 2 days ago and it's now at ÂŁ995. I wonder what they paid for it in the first place?!
 
#11 ·
Very true.

I still look out of the window now at my car, or when I park it in a car park and think how nice it looks.

Ok it's 9 years old, is far from mint as it has been well used, but my god does it ever drive well for a car probably worth less than 2k now! And tbh, it could easily be a 7k car looking at what you are charged for the german badged equivilant.

She still shines up well though the old girl and gets me comfortably and safely to work and back 70 miles every day, and has done for the past 18 months.

I was taking a look around auto trader today, and I can't really see anything much under 10k that I would have instead. That may sound a bit OTT, but seriously, where else could you get a sports kitted mid-sized saloon that looks as good, with dual climate, a smooth nice sounding V6 lump, xenons, a premium harmon karden sound system, leather etc etc etc for good money? Even most five series are an inferior spec, and you have to spend easily 7k+ to get anything near the ZT in either BMW or Audi guise at the same mileage mine is (80k or under, they have all done rocket ship mileage!). I think my next car will probably be a v8 S4 if a ZT v8 is not around in a couple of years, but thats the only thing I think would be worth the cash over my car, and even then, I'm not sure only two years newer they are worth 6x my car!
 
#14 ·
I recently purchased my V8 ZTT and love it to bits. However I do regret selling my 06 plate ZTT oil burner a it was also a super car. I think any of the 75 derivatives are a lot of car for silly money. GO FOR IT to get a car of equal quality and age will cost you a lot more money.:englandsmile:
 
#15 ·
Some idiot in his new E350 wotsit posh Merc cut me up on the motorway the other day, and it got me that mad that the red mist decended.... He thought he could just push in and barge his way through the traffic. He even thought he could burn me off, but i was having none of it. I made sure he knew who he was messing with. You can keep your flash, overly priced exective expresses and i'll keep my cheap enough to buy, wolf in sheeps clothing, thankyou.
 
#17 ·
My two-pence! :eek:)

Hmmm, interesting one, Flyer.

Superb design, aesthetically pleasing lines, gorgeous driving and handling. Not to mention over a hundred year’s Rover heritage and tradition… Top of the range car, with all the extras (SE+) for a measly £4k, who wouldn’t say no?

Or so I thought when I recently parted with £4k of my hard-earned on a beautiful ZT 180 auto. Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t totally a complete impulse buy either: I had a really good squiz of the car first, did my reasearch on what to look out for (with the help of contributors on this excellent forum), had a mechanic mate check her over and took her for several test drives. [Admittedly tho, after my first test drive, I was sold :eek:)]

But when buying a car it’s better to think with your head than your heart.

Do bear in mind that buying a 75/ZT involves a degree of risk. In my experience that risk surrounds the fact that you don’t have the support of a dealership who are within easy reach of parts, diagnostic tools and expertise.

Admittedly this isn’t a big deal 99% of the time – certainly not an issue with cars I’ve owned previously (generally pretty old BMW’s, Merc’s, VW’s and a Ford previously). But in my case, not having dealership expertise has been a bit of a mare…

After having had the car a couple of weeks, I found she wouldn’t start. No biggie I thought at the time. Several weeks later (and not to mention quite a few hundred squid spent), the car is still sitting outside my local garage.

It turns out the problem was down to a corroded immobilizer ECU. And in truth, this has been a total nightmare to resolve. I know, I know, I can “just” get a replacement from BMW. Well, kind of, yes (although it’s no mean feat since the part is VIN specific and getting one without quoting a BMW chassis number isn’t necessarily straightforward). But it doesn’t end there, there’s all the rest of it: T4 time, garage time, not to mention weeks of waiting around waiting for parts to arrive and expertise to become available from wherever I can get hold of it. No single point of contact to sort the whole thing out.

None of this is easy, cheap or convenient.

If I had had access to a dealer, I would certainly have had a far easier ride of it.

I’m not knocking the car – no way. She’s awesome, superb to drive, beautiful. She has everything a man could want in a car. I just love her to death. But do I regret buying her? In view of the problems I’ve experienced, unfortunately the answer is, regrettably, yes.

I’m not advising anybody against buying a 75/ZT. Far from it. I love them. They’re beautiful. But I’m just saying buying one is not without its risks. Of course buying any car isn’t without its risks. But unlike other cars, if your 75/ZT goes seriously hat-stand, you don’t necessarily have the support that you might otherwise have.

But then who wants to buy another type of car just to end up being another ordinary Joe? :eek:)

Thanks and best wishes,
Mike.
 
#18 ·
Hmmm, interesting one, Flyer.

Superb design, aesthetically pleasing lines, gorgeous driving and handling. Not to mention over a hundred year’s Rover heritage and tradition… Top of the range car, with all the extras (SE+) for a measly £4k, who wouldn’t say no?

Or so I thought when I recently parted with £4k of my hard-earned on a beautiful ZT 180 auto. Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t totally a complete impulse buy either: I had a really good squiz of the car first, did my reasearch on what to look out for (with the help of contributors on this excellent forum), had a mechanic mate check her over and took her for several test drives. [Admittedly tho, after my first test drive, I was sold :eek:)]

But when buying a car it’s better to think with your head than your heart.

Do bear in mind that buying a 75/ZT involves a degree of risk. In my experience that risk surrounds the fact that you don’t have the support of a dealership who are within easy reach of parts, diagnostic tools and expertise.

Admittedly this isn’t a big deal 99% of the time – certainly not an issue with cars I’ve owned previously (generally pretty old BMW’s, Merc’s, VW’s and a Ford previously). But in my case, not having dealership expertise has been a bit of a mare…

After having had the car a couple of weeks, I found she wouldn’t start. No biggie I thought at the time. Several weeks later (and not to mention quite a few hundred squid spent), the car is still sitting outside my local garage.

It turns out the problem was down to a corroded immobilizer ECU. And in truth, this has been a total nightmare to resolve. I know, I know, I can “just” get a replacement from BMW. Well, kind of, yes (although it’s no mean feat since the part is VIN specific and getting one without quoting a BMW chassis number isn’t necessarily straightforward). But it doesn’t end there, there’s all the rest of it: T4 time, garage time, not to mention weeks of waiting around waiting for parts to arrive and expertise to become available from wherever I can get hold of it. No single point of contact to sort the whole thing out.

None of this is easy, cheap or convenient.

If I had had access to a dealer, I would certainly have had a far easier ride of it.

I’m not knocking the car – no way. She’s awesome, superb to drive, beautiful. She has everything a man could want in a car. I just love her to death. But do I regret buying her? In view of the problems I’ve experienced, unfortunately the answer is, regrettably, yes.

I’m not advising anybody against buying a 75/ZT. Far from it. I love them. They’re beautiful. But I’m just saying buying one is not without its risks. Of course buying any car isn’t without its risks. But unlike other cars, if your 75/ZT goes seriously hat-stand, you don’t necessarily have the support that you might otherwise have.

But then who wants to buy another type of car just to end up being another ordinary Joe? :eek:)

Thanks and best wishes,
Mike.
Cant argue with that Mike and i would be silly trying to , you have without a doubt been unlucky to say the least .
On the plus side you will hopefully get it back on the road and enjoy trouble free motoring [fingers crossed] .
Your point about the dealerships is also valid but didn,t we go out and buy these cars knowing that ??.

With no dealership rip off [sorry back up] we are dependent on smaller outfits knowing what to do to sort our faults and thats where the skill on our part as owners comes in , we HAVE to find places we can trust and not just blindly hand our cars over to , this forum is an example , without this forum i frankly wouldn,t have bought my 2nd diesel 75 simply for the reasons you state , but picking up knowledge on here and the garages that get recommended told me it was a good option for me to get another .

FLYER.
 
#25 ·
Just to add, Swindon Autos an ex MGR dealer still have techs working there that know the MGR brand. I called the workshop manager as I knew of him and asked about the stat replacement (if it was going to be cheap enough I was going to save myself having to do it). It turned out they charge 88+VAT for labour per hour, and at 3 hours quoted for the work + parts it would have been the best part of ÂŁ400.00.

So it was Ebay, ÂŁ40 lighter and 5 hours later it was done on my drive, so they wouldn't have had it anyway.

With an ECU however, this is of course a bit more specialist so I do sympathise, but I'm just saying that the dealer isn't always the answer for a lot of people.


Cheers,
 
#33 ·
There are some absolute bargains to be had if you are handy with the spanners.
So many needing expensive work (garage labour costs kills it for a lot of owners) clutches/head gaskets etc going so cheap (local ads and e-bay) that it is more than possible to have a very nice 75 sitting on your drive for a total outlay (car and parts) for under ÂŁ500. Now that is VALUE FOR MONEY
 
#34 ·
The cost of the clutch renewal with the other bits ie slave master etc most certainly kills the point of repairing the car at an expensive garage as the labour just makes it futile unless of course you really want to keep the car regardless of cost .

FLYER.
 
#35 ·
Yes cost of labour kills a lot of 75,s for their owners, If you remember i bought our 75(a 1.8 x reg connie 42k miles fsh wedgewood blue) with a blown engine for ÂŁ250 got an mgf engine for ÂŁ150 altered it to fit and 12mts later still providing reliable every day transport for the wife. Strangly enough one of my wifes work collegues actually stopped talking to her as she felt my wife was trying to out-do her (the collegue had bought a 07. plate astra a week earlier and thought it was the bees knees untill my wife turned up in our ÂŁ500 all in 75) We spent all week laughing at that one.