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I get asked quite a bit about Subs which will fit in to the F/TF so today I thought I'd put together a big ol' list of the various models available.

They are in three sections:

Non powered - these are purely subwoofers in a box which will need some sort of amplification.

Active - These are as above but also have there own amplification built in. These will need an RCA feed from your head unit and it's own power supply & grounding point. But generally are the easiest type to install.

Subs only - Pretty obvious really, but these are just a couple of very very slim decent sized subwoofers I've found which would be ideal for anyone thinking about building a custom enclosure. Eg: from MDF or Fibreglass behind the seats. You'll need to build the box, and again, run an audio feed from an amplifier for these to work. If done correctly however, these will produce the best and "boomiest" results.

I haven't included little pictures as there are quite a few but can do to make things easier if people prefer?

Also, I managed to find the majority of these from one internet source, but that isn't to say this source is the cheapest, it was just a pretty good site I found. Once you have found which model etc you'd want, just "google" for that particular model number and you may well find it cheaper!

Also, depending on how useful this is, (as I realise that it is only really the minority who are looking to upgrade their audio) I will keep updating the list as new things come onto the market.

Well, here it is. Any questions, just ask!


Non Powered:

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=5465

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4475


Active Subs:

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=5466

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=3519

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=3785

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4500

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=5305

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4037


Subs only:

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=5306

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/4027.html

 

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this is something i have been lookin at alot recently but i cant make up my mind yet which route to take.

you might want to add the phase linear aliante to the subs list, they are shallow mount an very highly recomended but expensive
 

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A valid point old bean,
but I left out the Phase Linear for the same reason I left out the Cerwin Vega Stroker.
Most people will only pay THAT sort of cash for a sub if they are complete audiophile's and want pure sound quality.
But that level of quality would never be attained from a soft top 2 seater so I figured it would be a waste of time to include them? :D
 

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A valid point old bean,
but I left out the Phase Linear for the same reason I left out the Cerwin Vega Stroker.
Most people will only pay THAT sort of cash for a sub if they are complete audiophile's and want pure sound quality.
But that level of quality would never be attained from a soft top 2 seater so I figured it would be a waste of time to include them? :D


yeah agreed its just that there is a huge gap between something like the pioneer an the phase linear, i want some middle ground god damn it lol.

i spent alot of money on my head unit and componets which are soon to be amped so i dont want to end up with a sub with poor sq.

i guess im after the impossible with what space an options there are in an f but gonna try make the best of it.

oh yeah an while on topic im worried that if i put a sub behind the passenger seat the cars sound will off centre
 

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To be honest, if you want quality sound then an F/TF is just about the worst car you can buy. Poor sound insulation, engine behind your ears, open top, and nowhere to mount a decent enclosure add up to make it an awful car to add ICE to.

There's this little kiddy, slimmest one available at an anorexic 50mm and performace is equal or better than all but the blaupunkt. Butt ugly but then its space that counts, not looks.

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/car-speakers/cjbl150/index.htm
 

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oh yeah an while on topic im worried that if i put a sub behind the passenger seat the cars sound will off centre
Bass is omni-directional matey.

Doesn't matter where you put the sub or which direction you face it, you'll still (within reason) get the same bass.

I've got all the gear up in my loft ready for a dolby 5.1 surround set up and will be fitting the sub behind the passenger seat with a toggle switch so I can turn it off when the OH starts whining about it being too loud! :haha:
 

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i think the SQ from my system so far is pretty good. sound deadening the doors helped to cut out alot of vibrations an also making a more solid mount for the speakers helped alot too. order of what i want to do next is

amp components
sub
speakers in t bar or similar
 

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they need a box with a volume of 0.5 to 1 cubic feet

could build a box urself but i suppose most local car audio shops will either build boxes or have contacts for them.

try www.talkaudio.co.uk for more advice plus some of the members on there build boxes too i think
 

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I like the look of the pioneer shallow mount subwoofer. Got a couple of questions though...

How much would a box cost?
What size should the box be?
Where could I get a custom built box from?


Also I have this amplifier
http://uk.shopping.com/xPF-Jl-Audio-JL-E1200
Would it be okay to run this amp?

Thanks a lot!
A box to have built professionally would be pretty expensive!

You're best bet would be to build yourself from MDF for example and then carpet it.

You'll need to use this extremely handy calculator to work out the necessary cubic capacity of the box:

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/boxcalculator.asp

They can be built to order and I'll try to get you some links but as I said, they're not cheap! :D

And yes, your amp would work well for the sub as it is a monoblock single channel designed purely for subs.
 

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... i spent alot of money on my head unit and componets which are soon to be amped so i dont want to end up with a sub with poor sq.
Just noticed something. You've said that you have spent a lot on your head unit and components and so are looking to build a system with higher than average s.q. I'm presuming?

You're gonna need a better battery if you don't already have one chief.
Something like a drycell Optima. To get the best out of you're expensive head unit and future amps, you need to run them at a constant 14.4V which most normal batteries won't achieve.

Just a heads up! Carry on. :lol:
 

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Oh good good, dont worry about the links kris, i mite just give it a bash myself, cant be that hard to make a box hey! :err: Umm what thickness wood would i need? what are my max dimensions for my enclosure? cheers again!

On a seperate question is my amp any good? it says its only 200W RMS? My brother got it for me, he said its good, so I just believed him!
 

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The route I'm going to be taking, (and this is purely a suggestion obviously, each to their own an all that. :D ) is a long thin box behind the passenger seat.

So, to get your dimensions, if you take a tape measure and measure the carpeted space that is pretty much flat behind the seat from centre console to near the door (where the seat belt hangs) for your maximum width. And then from the bottom of the carpet at the floor to just below the lip of the T-bar for your maximum height. Then you can play around with the seat, forward and back, to see just how much room you have left for your depth measurement.

Getting those maximum measurements, along with the calculator link I gave you earlier, will let you know exactly what size your box will end up! :D

Just don't forget to make the box a little bit deeper than the minimum depth needed for the Pioneer. ;)

And the amp looks good! If it is really 200W RMS then it is quite impressive.
Ignore all the hype about 1000W systems etc, these figures are usually stating Watts PMPO or something equally as naff. :D
 
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