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Quick How To: Refurb noisy tappets on K-Series

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Thought I'd copy this over on here as I've learnt that the tappets in my ZS are identical to those in my Citroen BX! I was taught this by the guys on the 205GTi drivers forum (who rape the BX 16v for it's Mi16 engine to use in their trackcars, but luckily aren't afraid to get stuck in and share their knowledge!)
This might help cure the noisy tappet syndrome alot of people seem to suffer with on here, and I've not seen this technique mentioned anywhere else on here after quick search. New items are priced at £60+ for a set apparently, so it's a nice little way to save money in between other jobs (H/G change no doubt!)

The tappets need to be removed to do this, so it's cams out and cambelt off if you wish to attempt it (thankfully you can remove the cams without disturbing the headbolts/head gasket). You also need to allow days for this, due to the need to soak certain parts in desgreasers etc. If you have a parts cleaner to hand, you could probably speed the whole process up.

Remove the rocker cover to expose cams (ignore missing exhaust etc....was in the middle of H/G change):



Remove the timing belt, and then remove the cam carrier ladder from the top of the head so the cams can be removed. This is all detailed in the Haynes manual :)


The tappets have been removed in this pic (I forgot to take one with them in!). Easiest way to remove them is a magnetic retreval tool.

Heres the underside of your grubby tappet. The outer part is the bucket, the inner part is the piston assembly.



I then pop them in cups of Gunk for 24hrs to aid the next step. It's best practice to keep all the tappets marked to the valve from which they came, although on my K-series they all got mixed up and have since gone back together completely fine so I wouldn't panic if you can't keep them together. Much more important is to keep the internal contents of the tappet with it's bucket....don't mix these up with other tappets.



The next step is to cup the tappet in your hand and whack it repeatedly against a plank of wood until the piston assy drops out. It's been recommended to wear tough gloves doing this, as it kills your hand after about 5 mins! You're left with this:



If you put the bucket to one side for a minute, the piston that's just dropped out comprises of three parts....the piston body, the spring and the relieft valve. They might resist coming apart due to the vacuum of the oil but they will come apart. If they're anything like mine in the ZS, they'll look like this:


The valve that oil passes through is under that thick crap, so little wonder it was tappy!

Place all three parts of the piston, plus the bucket in degreaser and allow to soak. Then use a suitable brush (the teet end of a babys bottle brush works well!) to scrub out the components:



Remember to ensure they're clean throughout and check the feed hole in the side of the bucket is clear, as they won't fill with oil once in the engine unless it is! Place back in degreaser for a while before washing with warm water, at which point they'll look something like this:


If you're not going to reassemble immediately, spray them with WD40 or GT85 etc to stop them rusting up, which they will....quickly!

Next step is to redress the top of the bucket. I'm not completely sure why this is recommended, I assume it quietens down valve gear noise when the cam presses down on the bucket. To do this, place the bucket upside down on a piece of 60 grit (yes, 60 grit!) sandpaper and proceed to do figure of 8 patterns.



Every few figures, rotate the bucket 90 degrees and perform again until you've eventually rotated it the full 360 degress. You'll end up with this:


Redressed on right, old glazed unit on left

Now to reassemble. Take the piston/relief valve and piston body, fill with water and squeeze together. They'll resist until you depress the relief valve like so:



....at which point water will spray out under pressure, depending on how hard you're squeezing it! This makes sure you've fully cleaned the valve out....if it it dribbles, time to degrease again.

If all is well (it usually is), next stage is to dry off and refill the piston body with fresh oil and do the same again. However, this time press lightly before pressing the valve. You aren't trying to expell the oil, only the air trapped around it. Once all the air is gone, it's done.
Then, fill the bucket with oil until it reaches the lip of the hole the piston sits in, and re-insert the piston assy back into the bucket:



You'll spray some oil out of the filler hole and probably end up with some preload (about 1mm is fine, its nearly impossible to get all the air out) but once they're all clicked back together, you're done:



Refit to head and reassemble cams/timing belt etc as instructed. When you restart the engine, the amount of noise from the tappets will depend on how well you got removed the air from the tapets, but it's not abnormal to need to leave them 2mins or so to shut up fully. One of mine took 10mins in the ZS (they do if you forget to fill the bucket with oil :O ) but it now runs sily smooth and silent.

Hopefully this'll help someone out just as it helped me out!

Cheers
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Most excellent read, Thanks :) Rep given.

Is it possible to pop the pistons out with an air gun on the oil feed hole?
No, the feed hole is tiny. We're talking 2mm max! The pistons are held in place by a metallic snap ring which you can just about make out.
I tried other techniques other than banging on a block of wood and banging on a block of wood is the only one that worked! It doesn't damage the bucket either, and if you soak them in Gunk for 24hrs, then each time you whack'em down you make sure you're doing it square they come out pretty easily. I think between 3 and 6 whacks on average, whereas when I did my Citroen, I didn't pre soak them and they took much longer!
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Great guide that needs moving to the How Do I? section. I'm forever explaining this method to people and it is really nice to have the pictures to go with the words.
Brilliant thread :broon: Need to strip one of my heads soon so will undertake as much cleaning as possible :wooman:
No problem, definately worth doing if it's already in bits! Mine has only done 48k miles, so as you can imagine they were pretty gunked up because of a few short journeys over the years. Cars which have done normal mileage will usually not be as bad. My Citroen had done 110k when I did them and they were cleaner than the ZS's which has one done 48k like I say!
It's transformed how it runs though. :)
Most excellent read, Thanks :) Rep given.

Is it possible to pop the pistons out with an air gun on the oil feed hole?
Much easier task with compressed air but you need to be careful things don't go flying around and injure someone.
No problem, definately worth doing if it's already in bits! Mine has only done 48k miles, so as you can imagine they were pretty gunked up because of a few short journeys over the years. Cars which have done normal mileage will usually not be as bad. My Citroen had done 110k when I did them and they were cleaner than the ZS's which has one done 48k like I say!
It's transformed how it runs though. :)
Great contribution, only feedback I would like to add is that there is no need to re-fill them up with oil as you may end up with the piston jacked out too much loading up the valve stem too much. Just a little light lubrication of engine oil upon assembly is all that is required.
Much easier task with compressed air but you need to be careful things don't go flying around and injure someone.
Really? I couldn't get the nozzle to seal against the bucket!
Really? I couldn't get the nozzle to seal against the bucket!
Depends maybe on the nozzle of your air gun, Much easier on your wrists though! I used to find the odd sticky one that would not come out no matter how much slamming on bench, air is good.
I've heard of people using air pressure before so I guess it must work if you have it available. Most people can find a piece of wood. ;)

No need to worry about overfilling the tappets and jacking them open. This is how new ones are supplied. If they are clean, they will settle by the time you come to start the engine. It is the gummed up ones that are reluctant to settle down.
Really? I couldn't get the nozzle to seal against the bucket!
Depends maybe on the nozzle of your air gun, Much easier on your wrists though! I used to find the odd sticky one that would not come out no matter how much slamming on bench, air is good.
In the gutter!!!! Filthy minds you lot! :)

Great write-up, nice work, well done!
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