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If as reported SAIC bought the IP rights to 25, 75 and K series - does this mean they can transfer production of these to China and get all they ever wanted - their own brand?
 

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If this is the case, and I seriously doubt that it is, then yes they could transfer production. There is however one obstical. The only production lines for these vehicles are at Longbridge!
 

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It's almost certain that the "interest" which PWC have recieved is from SAIC, they want to buy rights to the MG brand and the production lines. This is so painful to watch. pleeeeaaaasee renationalise MG Rover!
 

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Owning the rights is nothing different to what SAIC is at the mo with GM and VW making there cars and selling them. With what they have got from MG Rover means they cant build a car and one thing is for certain the Phoenix 4 will have NOT sold the 75 there best car and is still one of the best cars in the world.
 

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In terms of IP, there are at least 2 aspects:

Patents - legal protection for 20 years after filing of patent. Key K series ones have probably expired which is why Toyota etc. have apparently made "copies"

Know how - this is a technology transfer agreement where the byuer gets the knowledge required to produce or sell what they want. This is probably what MGR have sold to SIAC.
 

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In terms of IP, there are at least 2 aspects:
Design rights also (i.e. registered designs - appearance rather than function). MG Rover Group owns the rights to all the current models (in the UK at least) and the TCV, 75 coupé and MG GT - we looked it all up earlier on today.
 

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More importantly who has the IP for "NEXUS"? This car was to spawn the 45 and 75 replacements and whilst the existing models IP has been sold it could be possible that the NEXUS IP was bound up in the current talks. Remember it has been said that this cars platform was developed from the 75 technology but is quite a different platform. If MGR still own that then they could negotiate with other people. A properly upgraded cityrover could possibly just cover the lower segment leaving 1 volume line at Longbridge producing NEXUS based models aswell as the aluminium sportscars. It would mean a loss in jobs and there would be the two crucial areas of economies of scale and who would finance the completion of the project. However if TATA wants to become a serious player in Europe and longer term produce larger models for India, MGR could be a good fit. Also if the Cityrover was improved/replaced to also cover the 25 then TATA could see increased production for their Pune plant and MGR could give them access to european design so they wouldnt have to ask third party businesses to style their product?
 

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Know how - this is a technology transfer agreement where the byuer gets the knowledge required to produce or sell what they want. This is probably what MGR have sold to SIAC.
Know how means engineers, and SAIC don't own them.
 
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