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106's are big trouble they are overly complicated little cars. The only reason for it not starting is a serious failure. Your going to have to take it to a Pug dealer. The Saxo/106 unlike the Metro/100 which uses relays and cheap sensors that fit alot of the Rover range. The Saxo/106 use special sensors used only on there engines and some early AX's.

What made you want to buy a 106 in the first place?. But I am putting my money on a bill for a new ECU.
 

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Nothing it was for the girlfriend! Drove it like 3-400 miles the day I bought it and it was fine!

I cant get it to a Pug dealer - it doesnt move and I have no money.

I have changed all the parts that Peugeot recommended and also the people on the forum recommended - still nothing.

Never a french car - ever again.
 

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Just read the entire thread.

Jesus.

It does look to me as if it is the factory hard wired immobiliser in the ecu that is causing the problem.

There isn't a lot else it could be. You have changed about everything else.

I think you need to be looking at an ECU and keys, and possibly fuel pump too (if its coded to the ECU, dunno much about Pugs), all removed from the same vehicle to make sure all the codes match.

No idea what else to suggest.

Hope this helps

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If I simply lob in another pug ECU for a 1.1 into the car will that not work?

I didnt think they were coded - the car has no immobiliser.

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Oli
 

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Not sure but I wouldn't take that chance. I would be surprised if there wasn't a basic immobiliser somewhere in the ECU it being a '98 model.

If you can find one, have a chat over the phone with a Peugoet Breaker/Specialist, they will advise you on the best course of action.

Good luck.

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There is a standard immobliser in. If you put another ecu in then it might work but I rekon that it will need coding to the car. The only other suggestion I can make is to leave the battery off for afew hours. Check all the fuses and then put the battery back on with the ignition key left in postion 2. Then turn it off and then try to start it. Pugs are not my stong point but it's worth a go.
 

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There is a standard immobliser in. If you put another ecu in then it might work but I rekon that it will need coding to the car. The only other suggestion I can make is to leave the battery off for afew hours. Check all the fuses and then put the battery back on with the ignition key left in postion 2. Then turn it off and then try to start it. Pugs are not my stong point but it's worth a go.
Thanks very much for your suggestion! I will defo have a go!

Will let you know how it goes.

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Just ran outside and had a go.

Nothing - however...the ECU is clicking loads when I attach the battery.

Is this normal?

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Bloody quick few hours, fella.

Sejin26 is trying to suggest giving the ecu electronics time to reset. Leave it overnight disconnected and have a look in the morning.

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Its not the HT leads (these are what you refer to as "Spark Plug Wires"), as I have replaced these to no avail.

There is no spark - so changing the leads would make no difference either way - I changed them simply to rule them out.

But thank you for your suggestion peenuts.

UPDATE:

I have now taken the ECU to Pug and they have told me there is nothing they can do without seeing the car. I asked them if there was any piece of diagnostic equipment they could test the ECU with and they told me the same again - that without the car - nothing.

I also decided that I am far too broke to even consider fixing this car in the usual over-priced garage way and that eating is a priority.

I have no money left and cant even afford food or toilet paper now so this car has started to take its toll on my wallet.

The ECU is clicking so I am almost 100% that it is OK.

As a seriously last ditch effort I am going to take out the wiring loom and re-solder it and see what happens.
 

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i dont mean to be funny oli, and i have no idea how to solve it but why dont you just cut your losses and sell it on to try and recoup some of the money you have spent.

Seems the better option matey, id rather sell the car and have the money to spend on food.
 

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Because if I do this I will make a major loss - even more money I cannot afford.

If I fix it and sell it on maybe I can go shopping for food and maybe even some jeans that Ive needed forever.

Who knew that student loan repayments and rent would make me so broke.

Oh yeah thats right....I did.

lol.
 
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