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Yes, thats right, my gearbox has snapped in half whilst I was reversing! :***:

It has been juddering for a few weeks now in reverse, but I put it down to a leaking oil seal allowing the clutch plate to be contaminated, 'cos when I bought it a few weeks ago I was told the clutch had been done recently - so figured they hadn't bothered replacing the oil seal.

So I was reversing the car earlier, when there was an almighty bang- my clutch pedal disappeared, the gearstick wouldn't move out of reverse but the engine was still running.

I popped the bonnet thinking my clutch cable had snapped, only to see that the right hand side of my engine was sitting rather low. A closer look at the bell housing area revealed that the alloy gearbox casing and bell housing has snapped in half- leaving the flywheel etc visible.

The strange thing is the car was still running and not actually in gear despite the gearstick being jammed in reverse? After turning the car off, it can't be started again as the starter motor is now a good few inches away from the flywheel anyway.

I'm guessing that the cowboys who replaced the clutch haven't bothered centralising it on the crankshaft??? Any other ideas on possible causes would be appreciated, also info on what gearbox's are suitable replacements, possible sources in Yorkshire area, and how much such work is likely to cost me?

Not sure if this has any bearing on the matter? but I've just had the head gasket replaced, but the car was slightly juddery prior to that. But due to the cost of work just done on the engine, I don't really want to replace the full engine/gearbox.

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Probably just coincidence.

I would bing in a second hand box - try one of the specialist breakers to ensure that you get the right one.
 

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Can you show us a pic? Has it split where the bellhousing mates with the block, or where the gearbox mates with the bellhousing?
 

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Not sure if you sick puppies just want to look at my poor broken gearbox for kicks, or to offer advice - but will take some photo's tomorrow to try and show the damage. Its not exactly the most accessable of places to photograph, but will do my best.

When it comes to gearbox/gearchange issues, I'm not the most technicaly knowledgeable of people but the info provided thus far is what a friend told me after a quick look. I was more concerned with getting my car home off a rough estate before dark!

Any suggestions on where I can source a recon gearbox? I've tried a google, but just getting these "fill in this form with your car model, shoe size & life history, and we will get back to you eventually" type results.
 

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roverbreakers, viking, best of british off the top of my head - couple of hundred squids and your old box (not that it will be worth much....)

and yes, we are sick pupies, get some photo's up! :p
 

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Not sure if you sick puppies just want to look at my poor broken gearbox for kicks, or to offer advice
A bit of both...just a bit of harmless fun :lol:

No seriously now, if i understood correctly from what you wrote i am very curious to see what exactly happened.
 
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It could, of course, just be that the bolts securing the bell housing to the main case have come adrift and fallen out one at a time.
 

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A picture is worth a 1000 words ... and will be much more informative and provide a better chance of a correct diagnosis....

Funny that should happen after the clutch has apparently been replaced.... gearbox has to come off to access the clutch ... Hmmmmm...

In a recent edition of Car Mechanics in their Trade Tips section IIRC, there's a story whereby someone working on a car dropped a socket and it disappeared into the engine compartment.

Long story short, it had got into the bellhousing somehow and when the car was started up, jammed in the flywheel bursting the bell housing ... Nasty ... ring any bells?
 
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My brother dropped a bolt into the bell housing of his VW Golf as we were finishing up the head gasket replacement. That bolt was the very last item to go back on and ended up with the gearbox having to come off.

Mk 1 Golf diesel 4 speed boxes are, apparently, the hardest to remove!!!!!!!!!!
 

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A picture is worth a 1000 words ... and will be much more informative and provide a better chance of a correct diagnosis....

Funny that should happen after the clutch has apparently been replaced.... gearbox has to come off to access the clutch ... Hmmmmm...

In a recent edition of Car Mechanics in their Trade Tips section IIRC, there's a story whereby someone working on a car dropped a socket and it disappeared into the engine compartment.

Long story short, it had got into the bellhousing somehow and when the car was started up, jammed in the flywheel bursting the bell housing ... Nasty ... ring any bells?
Yup! Sounds about right!

Just about to upload the pictures now.
Managed to book the car into the garage who recently did my HGF work, decent bunch of lads- they're gonna supply and fit a replacement box for £170. I put my details into one of those find a part sites last night, and got about twenty quotes for low mileage boxes today! But the cheapest one was £150, so for an extra £20 I'm getting it fitted too. :bgrin2:
 

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when I called the breakdown people and they asked me what the problem was a third time...... I knew I wasn't getting it fixed at the roadside!
 

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ouchamundo! that looks pretty nasty!

btw i'd top the coolant up and get a cold air feed to that induction kit ;)
 

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ouchamundo! that looks pretty nasty!

btw i'd top the coolant up and get a cold air feed to that induction kit ;)
I've got a Komodo kit coming on Friday, so waiting till then to fit a ram tube with the filter positioned behind the mesh- but well spotted on the coolant!
 

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Holy ***** The bellhousing is supposed to counteract a lot of forces...higher than the car would ever experience.

Did the breakdown people tell you why that happened when they came?? There are 2 large bolts holding the box on the engine at the bottom...one can be easily seen from the front of the engine, at the starter height. Is it still there?

Keeps us posted of what you find out about what caused this!!!
 

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Classic case of the bellhousing bolts not being done up when the clutch was replaced - or it was forced onto the locating dowels by the mounting bolts......
 
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