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Hi all. After 16k miles I do have to replace my back tyres. They are 215/40/16. I've been wearing Goodyear F1's till now, but surfing the net I have founded this:


TOYO PROXES T1-S 215/40 ZR16 86W RF, 50 quid each plus mounting
TOYO PROXES T1-R 215/40 ZR16 86W RF, 54 " "
GOODYEAR EAGLE F1 GS-D3 215/40 R16 82W, 74 " "
PIRELLI P ZERO NERO 215/40 ZR16 86W XL, 75 " "
DUNLOP SP SPORT 9000 215/40 R16 ZR, 78 " "
CONTINENTAL SportContact2 215/40 ZR16 86W XL, 80 " "
BF Goodrich g-FORCE PROFILER 215/40 R16 86W XL, 85 " "
GOODYEAR EAGLE F1 GS-D3 215/40 R16 86W XL BSW, 94 " "

What do you think about Toyos?. They are not very common in Spain and people don't know them. Is there any difference between T1-S and T1-R?

Thanks in advance.
 

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I'm not sure what the technical differences are between T1-S and T1-R except that the R has slightly stiffer sidewalls. Have a look on http://www.toyo.co.uk or maybe com. The main difference is that the S is being replaced by the R. I have used the S and will be getting a full set of R when needed.
 

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I've been using T1-S Toyos for the last couple of years on both 15" and 17" wheels. They give good performance for reasonable cost. Last set of Toyo rears lasted me 13½K miles as opposed to 15½K for Goodyear NCT3s. I've never used Goodyear F1s, but I'm told that they last longer than Toyos. However, when you break it down to cost per mile I don't suppose there's much difference. I think that you would be safe going for either - slightly bigger hit money wise for the Goodyears though. My next set of tyres will be Toyo T1-Rs.
 

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Just comparing my new Toyo T1-R’s to my next-door neighbours T1-S’s, the main change in tread paten seems to be an extra grove on the outer edges connecting the ‘V’ groves together.
 

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I'd go BF Goodrich everytime.

I have just flown back from the US with a set of BF Goodrich g-force KDWs under my arm, shoved them on my rebuilt MK2 Golf GTI 16v Campaign - and the difference is startling.

The TF will outcorner the Golf any day of the week but the grip the Golf is now getting means its much closer. When new tyre day arrives for the TF - Its getting Goodrich.

They are also rated for wet weather - and previous BFs have been simply awesome in the wet.

The wear on them is nothing. The last set of BFs on front tyres on the Golf did 40k and were only removed because the tread had got low. The replacements had much less grip in all conditions. We were gutted to remove them.
 

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OK. Thank you all. You really know about this this. Sorry, Stafainn, as you replied here and at x-power forum to my question. I tjink I will go for the T1-R to try them once.
 

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What I do not understand is that, looking the tyre tread with "V" pushing the water to the outer groove there is nowhere for it to go?? Which must make the tyre lift off the road in the wet?

Any trye specialist out there!

MikeS
 
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