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Stu

 

I'm quite sure the fleet of Ministerial Rover 800s are long gone. I visit London (Whitehall) quite often and the Rover 75 is definately outnumbering the Vauxhall Omega.

My bosses at the Home Office all seem to use Rover 75s and I noticed earlier this year that staff at Buckingham Palace seem to have Rover 25/45 more than any other car.

 

An e-mail address for his constituency secretary is egs.nwlp@ansleysc.freeserve.co.uk

Stu

 

at hames hall its the 1.6, 1.6vvt, 1.8vvt, 2.0vvt cant see mps briving 318's now can u

 

Maybe the policticains are trying to shake the oldie image and also drive round in better cars.

Im sure Ms Dynamite wont want to be seen in a 75 let alone a Rover 800.

As my constiuency MP, i fully support Mr Mike O'Brian

 

Maybe the policticains are trying to shake the oldie image and also drive round in better cars.

Im sure Ms Dynamite wont want to be seen in a 75 let alone a Rover 800.

As my constiuency MP, i fully support Mr Mike O'Brian

So basically what you are saying is the image of a bloody MP is more important than British industry.

Come on, get real

 

IMHO all British Government Ministers should choose Rovers, perhaps we should start a campaign by emailing both our constituency MPs and all the ministers and perhaps involve the press. Perhaps we should also name and shame those MPs who drive foreign cars ...................

 

So basically what you are saying is the image of a bloody MP is more important than British industry.

Come on, get real

And your view on the EU would be?

Blindly following a manufacturer just because your attempting to be patriotic is totally non-sensicle.

Lets be frank here - a 5 series is an alround better car than a Rover 75 - deny it all you want.....

Phil

 

Nothing this government does would surprise me......:err:

The only benefit of a government minister chossing a B*W 5 Series over a Rover 75, is that its greater surface area makes it mich easier to score a direct hit when throwing eggs and rotten vegetables at it. Still at least in that department, even the Rover 75 is an improvement on the Ford Scorpio - which was a nightmare to try and score a direct hit on.

Incidentally, I recently had a visit from a local politician ahead of next year's local elections in Northern Ireland. I asked him whether he considered himself British as enthusiastically as I did. To which he replied 'I would think so'.

I told him that if that was the case, 'You should get rid of that sheddy Saab and replace it with a British made car - such as an MG or Rover. And until then, don't you ever f***ing come near my door again'

John

 

John

It's funny, the only times I've seen 75s with MPs in has been Stephen (spit) Byers, and some other scandalised Labour MP.

The American government use american cars, the russian government use russian cars, the french government use french cars. I think it is wrong that the British government doesn't use more MGRs. You can't call jaguar british anymore. There isn't another wholey owned British car manufacturer that can produce similarly suitable cars, and for those who say Get a 5-series because it's better, I suggest they look to the Vanden Plas. Infinitely more ministerial and regal if you ask me, as well as being more exclusive, better looking, and supporting two british manufacturers at the same time.

Patriotism just doesn't seem to be this country's "thing". :cus:

 

Why not give the White House call on this one. If Bush rings Blair and "asks" him to buy Rover than he will. Lap Dog Tony as he is known a round the world!

I was just thinking, may be we should go and do his House, after all it our first offence.............just do few hours in the old people home.

Mega.

 

Blindly following a manufacturer just because your attempting to be patriotic is totally non-sensicle.

Sensicle????

So, Phil-Mk3-Turbo the PATRIOTIC Germans & French who dominate European motor manufacturing because they patriotically buy their domestic cars by the millions, thus generating employment for millions of THEIR countrymen, putting billions of EUROs into their economies and earning billions and billions in foreign currency (mostly OURS)! for their countries so they can affort fantastic roads, schools, health care, infrastructure, etc. etc. beyond our wildest dreams is NONSENSICAL!!!

You sure you've thought that one through?

If there were more patriotic people in this country who had a grasp on reality and bought stuff made in the UK (especially cars, 'cos that's where the really big money goes) then we too could have great schools and people like you might be able to spell properly...

 

If there were more patriotic people in this country who had a grasp on reality and bought stuff made in the UK (especially cars, 'cos that's where the really big money goes) then we too could have great schools and people like you might be able to spell properly...

Okay - point number 1. Correcting a spelling mistake to point our your argument is a sign that you are a W:***:ER and indeed have no real point to make.

Secondly - I bought a £20k British car this year by the way of an MG.

Thirdly - all the company cars provided by the company which I am a director of are MG-Rovers - this was my decision.

Fourthly - just incase you missed point number 1, you are a W:***:ER!

Got it now or shall I use shorter words for you?

Phil

 

"Last edited by Howard on 21-12-2002 at 21:18"

Oh look, you edited out *some* of your mistakes before I could correct them for you. Well done for that......

 

Well, Firstly, I'd stick to short words. they're easier


"Secondly - I bought a £20k British car this year by the way of an MG.

Thirdly - all the company cars provided by the company which I am a director of are MG-Rovers - this was my decision. "

So how can it be non-sensical to buy British if you're so proud of the fact?

 

So how can it be non-sensical to buy British if you're so proud of the fact?

I'm not proud of the fact particularly, just making a point.

It made economical sence for us to choose these cars, thats why we did. I wouldn't, however, ever consider the likes of the Rover 75 for example as for the money there is better cars with better residuals.

We were offered good deals on 25's and ZS's which are cars that fitted with out budget - so we chose them - maybe thats why French people buy French cars etc.

So - which new MG-Rover have you recently bought that shows how your backing the british car industry?

 

Would beg to differ on the 75 Phil. From the deals MGR Fleet are giving at present on the 75 (with the exception of the CDT), I don't think there is a bigger bargain out there - especially when you look at whole life cost.

Sadly, I am not responsible for choosing company cars - the only British car in the fleet is mine (MG ZS). Hence our Sales Managers are driving around in a mix of Belgian, French and German cars

John

 

So - which new MG-Rover have you recently bought that shows how your backing the british car industry?

Sadly I,m such a ****** that I can't afford a new car, (which would be a ZT-T if I could) but I do my bit. All the Hi-Fi is British (the best in the world), so's the cooker and all the other appliances, the power tools, even the carpets and this computer are Made in England. The only foreign stuff is the Camcorder, digital camera, telley, etc, 'cos hard as I try I can't buy a British one.
And the car does absoloutely no damage to the economy at all as far as I can tell as it's a twenty year old Volvo -worth 10% of the stereo! (But it does have 64% British content, or so I'm told by my local Volvo specialist).

 

Kind of ironic then really that you said this....
"If there were more patriotic people in this country who had a grasp on reality and bought stuff made in the UK (especially cars, 'cos that's where the really big money goes) then we too could have great schools and people like you might be able to spell properly..."

Even buying old second hand Rovers helps the mark you know - as it keeps the residuals up which makes them a more attractive company buy.....

Phil
P.S. I received a quite excellent education. Perhaps thats why I am now buying brand new cars rather than just lecturing other people on something I don't follow myself.

 

I was just thinking, may be we should go and do his House, after all it our first offence.............just do few hours in the old people home.

Mega

I know in the past I've been deeply critical of some of your postings. But I take it all back now mate With that last post, you've excelled yourself.


What a super idea! In fact, wny not take it one stage further and instead of doing Tony's house... just do Tony

John

 

hey howard,

 

I still don't get it. You admit you didn't buy your cars for patriotic reasons, and you say it's non-sensical to do so- so why are you suddenly going all patriotic and having a go at me for deciding not to support the foreign competition and instead drive an old banger?

I don't know a single Rover product that would let me carry 3 metre lengths of timber around inside it, or carry half a tonne of cement and is such a pile of sh1t that it doesn't matter how much abuse it gets on trips to the dump etc.

As soon as I can justify it there will be a new ZT-T on the drive. It makes both patriotic sense to me, and will be a better car than anything else the foreign competition has to offer.

The real irony is the car my wife drives around in. LOL Very German, very expensive, EXTREMELY unpatriotic - so I have a brown paper bag in the glovebox all the time, with two holes in it to see through when I (shame faced) take it out for a blat...

 

Sorry sandy77uk You'll have to translate that for me, haven't the faintest idea...

 

A few points here.

Firstly, I don't think the French and Germans buy their own cars because they are "patriotic". It's because they have a different cultural and economic outlook to us. They still see their nations as communities in which they all have a duty towards one another, and part of that duty is to keep each other employed and as well paid as possible, and to generate income that benefits the infrastructure of the whole nation.

The British on the other hand see themselves as a nation of individuals, who have to differentiate ourselves from each other as far as possible, and in doing so have a competitive attitude which requires us to always have what we perceive to be the best; and as far as cars are concerned, for many people that means B*W's. Of course the Germans don't mind us buying their cars, as it means they can have even more expensive holidays in Spain, and nab even more early sunbeds.

Many years ago, most British people had the same outlook as the continentals, but this started to disappear sometime around the early 80's. You can blame Thatcherism or Union militancy according to your own political outlook. However, the simple fact is that as far as manufacturing industry is concerned, it puts British companies at a severe disadvantage.

Nice bit of "handbags" between Phil-Mk3-Turbo and Howard. Keep it up, guys!

 

Sorry sandy77uk You'll have to translate that for me, haven't the faintest idea...

Howard - me too!?