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My understanding is that it won't be the G Series. As Peter says, there will be a diesel and I am led to believe that it will either come from another outpost of the SAIC Empire (less likely) or from another Western manufacture (more likely) :)

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]wasn't one of the longbride 550's running a fiat jtd engine??
i am sure i saw that somewhere.
 

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If it launches with a strong diesel engine and at a sensible price then it will be a success. Provided of course the quality is good but those who have seen the 550 and those who own later TF's seem to think it will be good so it all looks promising.

Some of the comments about the car baffle me, its not ground breaking but it was never going to be and doesnt need to be. But its certainly not bland and it most certainly does not look like a clone of a Primera or a Gen2. Of course there are elements of other designs in there but every new car is like that. Had it been a very radical design it would have missed the mass market its aiming at. There is plenty of scope in that design to launch a top-of-the-line sport model with a more powerful engine and tweaked styling.

As a first step towards a new range of MG's this is a great effort. I would like to see the 6 range expanded with coupe and sport tourer models and then quickly followed up with the new MG5 and MG3 models.

What i think will be really interesting is whether or not the 550 saloon goes on sale here and if so what badge will it wear. The signs perhaps point towards Morris being used but that will need a big marketing push and i think they would perhaps need to kick off with a "new minor" small car to really make it work.

it could be just my biased POV but when i look at the 550 it says "Triumph" to me more than it says "Rover". Elegant saloons that combined sportiness with luxury were Triumphs speciality and the 550 to me fits that bill perfectly. I know it cant happen, just makes it even more of a shame that my fav make ended up in the hands of them who shan't be named........
 

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The MG6 looks too Chinese and the interior looks tacky- like its from a 1990's kia.

IMO the ZS is better looking, more refined and British-looking than the MG6. And the ZS is almost a 20 year old car.
Are you blind!! :rofl:

Ok take the MG6 to halfords, fit a tacky body kit and hey pesto you have a curvy ZS replica..
 

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I think its been that long since a new MGR was launch that people forget how generic the cars looked (75 & 600 excepted)

I remember hating the first pics of the R8 200 because it looked like a Toyota Corolla crossed with a Ford Escort..

The R3 was the same though this time between and Astra and a Daewoo Lanos..

Both of the above sold very well and grew on me over time..

The MG6 if anything reminds me of a Mazda 6 crossed with a mondeo.. initself not a bad thing..

As I keep saying over and over like a scratched record the MG6 will look far more handsome in the flesh.. there is just no way you can get the proportions etc in a photo...

I would imagine the 550 will be launched as the MG5, can' see any reason why it shouldn't..
 

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Was just thinking (dangerous) what choice there is in terms of upper mid size 5dr cars like the MG6

Mondeo
Insignia
Laguna - yuk
Mazda6
Octavia
Primera - Yuk
Avensis

think of these and then the MG6 and styling wise the MG has most of them beat.. its at least as good looking as the Mazda, Ford and Vauxhall and wipes the floor with the rest of em..

Add the MG5 (As I would imagine they will launch a MG'd 550) and its still holds its own.. though the markets a bit fuller and much tougher..
Audi A4
BMW 3
Merc C
Alfa 159
Pug 408
Citroen C5
Kia
Hyundai
 

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Was just thinking (dangerous) what choice there is in terms of upper mid size 5dr cars like the MG6

Mondeo
Insignia
Laguna - yuk
Mazda6
Octavia
Primera - Yuk
Avensis

think of these and then the MG6 and styling wise the MG has most of them beat.. its at least as good looking as the Mazda, Ford and Vauxhall and wipes the floor with the rest of em..

Add the MG5 (As I would imagine they will launch a MG'd 550) and its still holds its own.. though the markets a bit fuller and much tougher..
Audi A4
BMW 3
Merc C
Alfa 159
Pug 408
Citroen C5
Kia
Hyundai
remove the primera ,hasn't been around for a couple of years.
the peugeot will now be called 508!!
the roewe 550 from whats been said will be mg'd to be the mg6 saloon!!
 

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Hate to say it.. but i really think it needs a spoiler to finish it off. I'm slowly warming to its design, but the rear is crying out for some unnecessary downforce.

Two engine options are missing from the range, a hot petrol option (v6 would be nice...) and a strong diesel engine. For a car of this size i would be disgusted with a diesel option with less than 150bhp. Shame the G series probably will not be used, it would have been a really good motor. Jag diesel would be good...? :)
 

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For a car of this size i would be disgusted with a diesel option with less than 150bhp.
bhp doesn't matter, if they have made it half the weight you expect then it will accelerate twice as fast as you expect. What matters is how fast it accelerates and these days how green it is. The turbo version is certanly not a slow car and the DVVT is reasonably clean for the size and acceleration it gives. Some people will want a V6 but the old 2.5 KV6 would not accelerate much quicker than the 1.8T, in fact not much quicker than if they put their new 1.5VCT in and it is nowhere near as green! A 100bhp boost from the Kers system will be better than fitting a KV6.
 

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Was just thinking (dangerous) what choice there is in terms of upper mid size 5dr cars like the MG6

Mondeo
Insignia
Laguna - yuk
Mazda6
Octavia
Primera - Yuk
Avensis

think of these and then the MG6 and styling wise the MG has most of them beat.. its at least as good looking as the Mazda, Ford and Vauxhall and wipes the floor with the rest of em..

Add the MG5 (As I would imagine they will launch a MG'd 550) and its still holds its own.. though the markets a bit fuller and much tougher..
Audi A4
BMW 3
Merc C
Alfa 159
Pug 408
Citroen C5
Kia
Hyundai
You missed out the accord mate, would be my choice if i needed something that size.
 

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bhp doesn't matter, if they have made it half the weight you expect then it will accelerate twice as fast as you expect. What matters is how fast it accelerates and these days how green it is. The turbo version is certanly not a slow car and the DVVT is reasonably clean for the size and acceleration it gives. Some people will want a V6 but the old 2.5 KV6 would not accelerate much quicker than the 1.8T, in fact not much quicker than if they put their new 1.5VCT in and it is nowhere near as green! A 100bhp boost from the Kers system will be better than fitting a KV6.
I think BHP/Torque does matter actually, we know the car will be fairly heavy, probably somwhere between the ZS and ZT weight at a guess, so it will need a fair wadge of torque to push it along. Nobody wants a brand new line of cars launched with an asthmatic diesel engine. Diesels are a massive market in europe, and you could not launch a sporty branded new DERV without some go to back it up.

In terms of the 1.8t, 8 seconds to 60 is not massively quick, certainly not quick enough to be the "performance" model. The old KV6, good an engine as it is, could probably do with an update. How about a nice new more efficent V6?
 

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i can't see the point of a v6 as it will only sell a small amount due to the ridiculous co2 roadtax.
upgrade the power of the 1.8t to 200 bhp and its effective against the opposition.
diesel will need 160 to 180 bhp in top spec and a standard 130/140 bhp to be competative.
 

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i can't see the point of a v6 as it will only sell a small amount due to the ridiculous co2 roadtax.
upgrade the power of the 1.8t to 200 bhp and its effective against the opposition.
diesel will need 160 to 180 bhp in top spec and a standard 130/140 bhp to be competative.
Agree on the Diesels, but a screamy 4 pot is no replacement for a throaty V6 imo.
 

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It will be interesting to see how MG pitch it price wise, compared with the competition.

I like it more each time I see it. I guess the diesel option is more important if they are aiming it at the fleet sales.
 

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In terms of the 1.8t, 8 seconds to 60 is not massively quick
I just had a look to see what Mondeo was available that would beat 8 seconds, yes there is 1, the 222g/km 2.5 L turbo Titanium X Sport, which beats 8 seconds by 0.7 of a second. From the figures I was looking at the rest of the Mondeos dont come close. For the Focus there is more than 1 but the situation is not much different.

Looking at the old MG TF, there was only 1 that could beat 8 seconds and that was the model which sold the least so such speed isn't necessary for a sports car.

It would be nice to see the option of something faster, but it wont produce significant sales!

So a bog standard MG6 is faster than all but the very fastest Mondeo or Focus and faster than the fastest MG TF available today!

Here is the Roewe 550, which uses the same engine but isn't as fast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Z_Trujtnw
 

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I just had a look to see what Mondeo was available that would beat 8 seconds, yes there is 1, the 222g/km 2.5 L turbo Titanium X Sport, which beats 8 seconds by 0.7 of a second. From the figures I was looking at the rest of the Mondeos dont come close. For the Focus there is more than 1 but the situation is not much different.

Looking at the old MG TF, there was only 1 that could beat 8 seconds and that was the model which sold the least so such speed isn't necessary for a sports car.

It would be nice to see the option of something faster, but it wont produce significant sales!

So a bog standard MG6 is faster than all but the very fastest Mondeo or Focus and faster than the fastest MG TF available today!
I see what you are saying, but considering the brands heritige, it would be a shame if it were to be missing a "hot" model. 8 seconds is not "hot" by anyones standards i don't think. the 1.8t is probably a nice engine, but i just hope that it is not the quickest model we will see. Compare it to the past MG Zeds. ZS had the 180, ZR the 160, and ZT the 260. Think back to the 620TI, or 220 coupe turbo. Where is the top spec equivalents to these for the MG6? That's where i'm coming from..
 
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