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This thread is to discuss, and make guesses about, MG monthly registrations in the UK which are generally on the up - but how much?

I'm not the only fan of MGs who's not here as often as they used to be and I don't think we have the quorum any more to run a separate thread for each month, but if we have a thread with no month in the title, then anyone can start the ball rolling for subsequent months and update the summary of who has guessed what in their own post.
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Good figures considering peeps always hold off until Sept to get the newer reg plate 68, I'm guessing Sept will be a 4 figure sales now with the new MG 3 !!
GOOD GWEEF! I've won something ... :D

Sales of Chinese MG appear to be on the up and up.

I see more and more locally and suspect that I miss some passing in the other direction. That simply due to the volume of traffic and so many SUV types which now populate UK Motorways and Roads merging into and disappear in the sea of SUV sameness to my eyes.

The last Chinese ZS I saw locally was a dull grey so nearly missed it. Only the large MG badge caught my eye otherwise that would have passed unnoticed.. Dull greys appear the most popular colour choice across a wide range of car marqe purchases by UK car consumers.

Grey option choice dullness. Having said that, I see more than one or two BMW 3-Series about locally in a vibrant bright blue not dissimilar to the trophy blue of my 2003 MG ZS. Two years ago most BMWs seen locally were some dull shade of grey. White now a popular choice for newer BMWs too.

These Chinese MG registration figures clearly show to me that despite lower profile limited media advertising, the "good word" is getting around which may explain these improving figures.

What has surprised me is the increasing number of those good looking Teslas I see locally. They are sufficiently distinctive so stand out in the sea of sameness out there on our roads. I believe they are not cheap, quite the opposite.

I think I have only noticed two or three Infiniti locally in the past twelve months. So they are about but in very small numbers in my neck of the woods.

Good to see that BIG MG badge proudly displayed on new motors locally even if they are sadly no longer manufactured in Longbridge or anywhere UK based.

Sadly it's what us mug Brits allow to happen all too frequently.

After all, who needs manufacturing? Tell that to our "friends" on the European Mainland like Germany, Italy, France etc... not to mention Japan Korea etc.

We could learn from other countries and like them, both overtly and covertly operate on a "UK First" basis. All far too late now in the land of mugs who allow such economic madness to become the norm and look set to continue to do so despite what happened on June 23rd two years ago.

So very disappointing.
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What on earth is happening to SsangYong?

In light of the recent registration figures, it looks like SsangYong are on a downward spiral considering that their Tivoli compact SUV is quite highly regarded in the motoring press.


Does anyone have a SsangYong dealer near them to see if MG are "stealing their lunch" with the new ZS SUV?


I know that I had considered the Tivoli petrol but the size when compared to the ZS and higher road tax and higher insurance put me off one.


Insurance Group

13 for 1.6 Tivoli ELX 5d vs 11 for 1.5 ZS Exclusive


Road tax


1.6 Tivoli ELX 5d

Annual Road Tax Six-monthly Road Tax First Year Rate CO2 Emissions (g/km)

£140.00 £77.00 £205.00 149 (Band H)

Exclusive 1.5 DOHC VTI-tech 5d

Annual Road Tax Six-monthly Road Tax First Year Rate CO2 Emissions (g/km)

£140.00 £77.00 £165.00 129 (Band G)


Cheers..
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Dull greys appear the most popular colour choice across a wide range of car marque purchases by UK car consumers.
The revamped 3 is making a lot of being available in red, yellow, blue, and orange, but not grey or black - "colour the road". Seems an ambitious move.
(the other two colours are silver and white).

These Chinese MG registration figures clearly show to me that despite lower profile limited media advertising, the "good word" is getting around which may explain these improving figures.
When our cars come from Chonburi will you still think of them as "Chinese MG"?
In light of the recent registration figures, it looks like SsangYong are on a downward spiral considering that their Tivoli compact SUV is quite highly regarded in the motoring press.
I wonder what's different? On a sub-£40k car, road tax is the same for everything nowadays, and it's just a question of how much the seller had to absorb on first registration.

Next month I shall even add Dacia to the list, say 15,000 YTD. After that it's a gap of some 15-20,000 sales YTD to the likes of Suzuki and Citroën.
SIAC are a Chinese company, same as VW are a German company and Toyota and Honda are Japanese.
SIAC are a Chinese company, same as VW are a German company and Toyota and Honda are Japanese.
Precisely... when was the last Ford made in this country? I have always regarded Ford as 'merican anyway as no doubt did Henry and son.

Mini now German owned, same with Chinese owned MG and all the other former British original brand marques now in foreign ownership and control.

It's what we do. As Honda, Toyota et al have advised long before any mention of a referendum, when it suits any of the wide range of former UK and foreign brands still made or assembled here, when it suits them, not us, they will be gone. Simple economics.

Thing is, they will still want to vend their stuff here to take advantage of wider UK margins... as BMW have occasionally mentioned... Us Brits have been keen to form long queues to pay over the odds for their stuff. Some whilst pleased to bad mouth Longbridge product and indeed dance on their graves. That includes not fit for purpose Government decisions from both the Blue and Red corners.

It's what they and many of "us" allow to happen which is all too sad to observe time and time again.

It did not used to be like that.
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We can all try and reverse this daft state of affairs by only buying cars made in this country. We can buy some Nissans, some Hondas, some Toyotas, Vauxhall Astras, and most Jaguars (NOT E-Pace) and LandRovers. I forgot the so-called Minis. And a few other low volume makes. The very idea of Rolls being BMW and Bentley being VW..........well, words fail me.


Bye bye MG!
SIAC are a Chinese company, same as VW are a German company and Toyota and Honda are Japanese.
yes, but I don't tend to think of Jaguars as Indian or Lotuses as Malaysian or whatever it is now. I think "Chinese MG" is a bit wide of the mark TBH
We can all try and reverse this daft state of affairs by only buying cars made in this country.
If I tried that I'd probably go for something like a Honda Jazz only to discover that that particular model came from India or Thailand... or China. :doh:

And we wouldn't be able to tell!

Meanwhile, the country is full of web designers and project managers adding greater value than any production line could. I loved the (partly Japanese) design of my legacy ZS, whose most-prominent label under the bonnet said MADE IN CHINA, but even when it was new it didn't have the build quality of my 3. In constant pounds a 3 is far cheaper than an equivalent ZR!

Dieselgate tells us that the crucial thing is never to pay too much for a car.

Meanwhile, I wonder how August's figures are going? The first British buyer has driven a Mk4 MG3 away from a dealer (John Newey's Summit Garage in Dudley).

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Haha, i always love optimism of MGJohn! Just look how many times he wrote "Chinese MG", "dull" etc. He wants to form negative opinion/mood around SAIC MG, but i'm happy that Facebook takes over control and not many people will read his nonsense.

As for UK I can say that you already LOST battle in this globalization world. Why people bought expensive and low-quality Rovers/MG? Please compare prices of new R25/ZR and prices of new 3/ZS/GS. If you will add inflation rate you will understand that Rover/MG robbed and gave you a car which headgasket can hold up to 40k miles! I remember when new Rover 75 2.5 was 33 thousand pounds in Lithuania and warranty was only 12 months! After joining the EU warranty for all cars were at least 3-5 years (manufacturers couldn't discriminate and manipulate countries inside the EU). Please don't blame SAIC MG, they didn't do anything to Rover/MG, just ask yourself why indian Volvo is the most popular brand in Sweden, why Fiat is no. 1 in Italy despite all talks about italian quality? Where have you been when Rovers were on sale?

In 2013 Barclays closed call center in UK and moved it Lithuania, ~2000 new working places were created. Now they are closing it and moving branch to India. Should i blame Barclays, hate british, indian people for that? No! Business must be competitive so they move forward despite any opinion.
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I'm with MGJohn 100%. I would add that Rover failed because UK buyers were unpatriotic, especially with regard to German makes. Rover were in an impossible position, and ultimately wrecked by BMW. The gang of four after that did a pretty good job of keeping MG-Rover afloat, but I do think they also made sure that when the crash came, they were OK.


I bought Chinese MGs because it appeared at the time that MG Motor would at least be assembling in the UK. They failed to do that, and utterly failed to produce models that were true to the MG norm. The present models do not perform like traditional MGs - they merely wear an MG badge. They are good value, yes, but where are the hot hatches etc??
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I'm with MGJohn 100%.
Good for you GOMRL

Post number 311 is wrong on numerous counts.

I'll say no more except to post a copy of a recent post of mine on the "Chinese" MG Facebook site. Or, to give the group it's actual title :~

MG Motor UK - unofficial.

Here it is :~

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Have HAYNES produced any Workshop Manuals for the Chinese built MGs? They can be useful although the ones I've bought recently do not cover the tasks in the same finer depth of detail compared to those I bought 30+years ago. The paper quality and illustrations are not anywhere near the quality of the past unfortunately. Having fitted an MG6 engine to my MG ZT-T 1.8T I can confirm it is very similar to the Rover K-Series. The Chinese have made numerous real improvements to it which of course, Longbridge could have done but those in control including blinkered Governments did not allow to happen. Here's the MG6 engine being lowered into the ZT-T. by an amazing coincidence, I had driven the donor MG6 before it met a premature end with only 20,000 miles on the clock. :~



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Still if my stance on these things causes mirth in certain quarters like poster #311 states, I see that as a bonus.

... and here's another FB post which torpedoes much of the erroneous content in post 311. :~

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Well said John E. Ruffle... Gave a lift to my "always buys German" neighbour in my MG ZT recently., He was obviously very impressed by the interior and handling of my "old" car and said so. Yet, when he bought his new Porsche or BMW, ( at huge monthly cost I may add ) a visit to the nearby MG-Rover showrooms was not on his shopping list. His loss and he can ponder why there are ever fewer decent UK jobs or careers for his offspring he mentions. Every time he makes an important foreign built purchase, he plays a part in exporting both good jobs and careers to the EU Mainland., Rocket Science it aint although it is to far too many Brits who are simply determined not to "get it".

At least the Oriental controllers and owners of the MG marque now hold it rightly with much respect. Cannot blame them. They picked up the whole package for peanuts. They, unlike some folks I could mention, appreciate value.


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OH MY GOD, how many times did we see this swap? Same engine conversion in 50 threads.... 6 years ago i did T Series turbo conversion to Rover 420 Tourer. I hope you have heard of it? Now it has new owner and the engine had to be second time fully rebuilt... Another great quality issue. If you say that SAIC MG engine is much better than original one, why do you blame new owners? Do we have a racist here? Don't you like the skin color of new owners? What's wrong dear John?
OH MY GOD, how many times did we see this swap? Same engine conversion in 50 threads.... 6 years ago i did T Series turbo conversion to Rover 420 Tourer. I hope you have heard of it? Now it has new owner and the engine had to be second time fully rebuilt... Another great quality issue. If you say that SAIC MG engine is much better than original one, why do you blame new owners? Do we have a racist here? Don't you like the skin color of new owners? What's wrong dear John?
What's wrong dear John you ask. What's your problems. You clearly have an excess of them!

What a nasty clueless post with unfounded accusations of blame and racism... Clueless and a nasty piece of work! . No further exchanges with the likes of you. END OF!

Obviously if the engine needed another rebuild so soon it was not done correctly by YOU the first time!

For those who are sufficiently interested in these things, nothing wrong with T-Series if maintained correctly ... this one has been in the family for twelve years and has been 100% reliable. Recently clocked up 238,000 miles and now north of 240,000.

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When our cars come from Chonburi will you still think of them as "Chinese MG"?
I think what helps makes them Chinese is their design - 90% in China, 10% in the UK. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing but to me this makes them more Chinese than Volvo cars which are designed in Sweden and less British than Jaguar Land Rover cars which are designed in the UK,
In my experience of design - what goes around comes around. (it is different with differing cultures, age and gender).

However Design is only half way down the process for any product. Analysis, research and development of both the product and the market come first.

In general as consumers, we like something new and different but the same as we are used to. What we want to say is 'oo - now that's better than the other one'. This is Pre justification for purchase. What marketeers don't want is 'I think I prefer the old one'

So how do you get the pre justification response when marketing?
Strong brand and strong product. Knock em for six. Quality campaign.
Weeker brand and strong product. Drip feed campaign. Consciousness building.
New brand and unknown product. Discount bargain hard sell.

Mg is not a week brand for the Chinese. My design undergrad students from Hong Kong and mainland China love my TF and talk about the provenance MG has back home. They understand the history from UK MG. An SUV is a car they need though. All my students live in the countryside.
They say MG is an aspirational brand for a young professional.

Back in the UK, MG is not aspirational anymore. It needs to drip feed it's existence, move away from what was supposedly bad, not forget it's roots but again come across as an established brand but with new 'oo that's better' products.

This phase of promotion takes time. MG is still remembered for 1)its recent failed past and 2)glorious heritage in the UK.

If I was going to design my way over the public mindset problems from the past - I would offer a brand new product nothing like the old saloons or two seaters but give it the same MG nostalgic and sporty feel. A subtle, managed campaign over 5 - 10 years of brand building. Then drop a product that links to the heritage of MG from the 50's and 60's that is better in every way than it's competition and a little more expensive. Just out of reach.
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Go on then, how many of you buy new cars, regardless of brand. Personally I wouldn't, the only cars I'd have new are way beyond my budget.
Go on then, how many of you buy new cars, regardless of brand. Personally I wouldn't, the only cars I'd have new are way beyond my budget.
I've bought 1 second hand Nissan Micra (F-reg 1988MY) and 2 brand new cars with me as the first owner, i.e. a Seat Ibiza (03-reg 2003MY) and an MG ZS SUV (18-reg 2018MY).

At no stage did I aspire to buy any of those brands or thought I must have one but I chose them because they all fitted my needs at the time.

With the MG it is an unknown entity but with the cheap insurance, 7 year warranty and large passenger and boot space I can see myself having this car for as long as possible rather than looking to move to a more mainstream brand.

Cheers..
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You sound like someone who buys a car new and keeps it for most of its life which is a very sensible position if you are not a petrol head and like to maximise your investment, most of my family do it this way.

Personally I like to drive much more expensive cars than I can justify buying new.
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