[Roverlike]

Not sure you will find person who could point you which relay does what on such open box picture. But you can work out, as suggested before, by looking at the pinout of the connector and measuring connectivity from connector to relay which relay do what.

In order to help you I am adding below pictures:

 

[digcot 65]

Not sure you will find person who could point you which relay does what on such open box picture. But you can work out, as suggested before, by looking at the pinout of the connector and measuring connectivity from connector to relay which relay do what.

In order to help you I am adding below pictures:

View attachment 139138

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Thanks the first picture is a great help I have a feeling,the earth side of the relay energising coil isnt making earth I have just had a second meter off Ebay ,whichdoesnt work on OHMS so a trip to Screwfix when they open Thanks again for the help Len

 

[digcot 65]

Thanks the first picture is a great help I have a feeling,the earth side of the relay energising coil isnt making earth I have just had a second meter off Ebay ,which doesnt work on OHMS so a trip to Screwfix when they open Thanks again for the help Len

Morning,Ive borrowed a friends meter until I can buy another one and Im getting more confused I measured the pins on 8 socket and 6 socket and they go the the relays shown These arn`t in the position as shown on the manual .Haven`t had time to measure the actual voltages on the relays yet But what am I doing wrong to think the relays are in the positio

n Ive drawn Len

 

[Roverlike]

All pictures in the manuals are NOT showing exact position of the relays within physical unit. They are just placed as best to represent connections and ONLY for reference, not as exact position of them.
As I said the best you can get is for YOU to measure connectivity of each connector's terminal to relay terminal and draw them on your picture.

 

[digcot 65]

Morning,Ive borrowed a friends meter until I can buy another one and Im getting more confused I measured the pins on 8 socket and 6 socket and they go the the relays shown These arn`t in the position as shown on the manual .Haven`t had time to measure the actual voltages on the relays yet But what am I doing wrong to think the relays are in the positio View attachment 139148 n Ive drawn Len

Morning,Ive borrowed a friends meter until I can buy another one and Im getting more confused I measured the pins on 8 socket and 6 socket and they go the the relays shown These arn`t in the position as shown on the manual .Haven`t had time to measure the actual voltages on the relays yet But what am I doing wrong to think the relays are in the positio View attachment 139148 n Ive drawn Len

Measuring now Imgetting 12 volts on the fuel relay pin 6/2 and now have to check if pin 6/1 goes to earth On the starter relay I dont get a voltage on pins 6/6 or 6/4 ,when the ignition key is turned to dstart position So more measiring What a way to spend New Years day ,but it keeps nagging at me till i find problem Len

 

[digcot 65]

All pictures in the manuals are NOT showing exact position of the relays within physical unit. They are just placed as best to represent connections and ONLY for reference, not as exact position of them.
As I said the best you can get is for YOU to measure connectivity of each connector's terminal to relay terminal and draw them on your picture.

Ive measured from the 8 pin and the 6 pin connectors and have drawn the diagram as shown Nwxt job is to test the earth lead on the fuel relay and find why no voltage on the start relat,when the ign.key is turned to start Semm to be getting somewhere slowly,but mainly due to the excellent help off the forum Len

 

[Roverlike]

Here are three more pictures for relay module:

 

[digcot 65]

Ive measured from the 8 pin and the 6 pin connectors and have drawn the diagram as shown Nwxt job is to test the earth lead on the fuel relay and find why no voltage on the start relat,when the ign.key is turned to start Semm to be getting somewhere slowly,but mainly due to the excellent help off the forum Len

Hello pin 8/7 gives a voltage on the starter relay ,so it seems to be a problem ,with the wires on plug 6 .So more measuring Len

 

[digcot 65]

Hello pin 8/7 gives a voltage on the starter relay ,so it seems to be a problem ,with the wires on plug 6 .So more measuring Len

Hello what and where is the neutral switch as shown in attachment The pump relay isnt operating,but there is 12volts to one side of the energising coil Len

 

[Roverlike]

You do not have automatic gearbox, so that part of electric diagram is not for you. You can see that part of diagram is for EMCVT cars, these are cars with automatic gearbox.

 

[digcot 65]

You do not have automatic gearbox, so that part of electric diagram is not for you. You can see that part of diagram is for EMCVT cars, these are cars with automatic gearbox.

Thanks I thought this was the case One of the problems is,that the fuel pump does not run even though,there is 12 volts on one side of the coil. The other side of which goes to a box listed as ENGINE CONTROL MODULE (ECM0131) Is this also only for automatics in which case if its not there,then that coil connection should go to earth Len

 

[Roverlike]

You do have Engine Control Module. That is Engine ECU which controls your engine and that side of mentioned relay.

 

[digcot 65]

You do have Engine Control Module. That is Engine ECU which controls your engine and that side of mentioned relay.

Thanks ,so its obvious the one side of the relay isnt going to earth ,to energise it The ECU must energise ,when the ignition is turned on ,so the fuel pump can run

 

[digcot 65]

Thanks I thought this was the case One of the problems is,that the fuel pump does not run even though,there is 12 volts on one side of the coil. The other side of which goes to a box listed as ENGINE CONTROL MODULE (ECM0131) Is this also only for automatics in which case if its not there,then that coil connection should go to earth Len

Thanks again for the help Ive found three wiring faults so far and I have to find how to cure them .Since my car is manual ,then the start relay ,which has 12 volts on one of the pins of the energising coil it needs an earth ,on the other pin. As shown on the drawing Ive attached the one pin,which I would have thought should be earthed,goes to the ECU alarm (D111) which is fed by +12v on its other terminal This wouldnt earth the coil of the starter relay as Ive drawn in red.

Or am I getting something wrong I wanted a challeng of sorts,but this is beyond that Len

 

[Roverlike]

Alarm ECU is earthing other side of relay when alarm ECU is supposed to do it. If alarm ECU is not doimg it, then problem is in alarm ECU or you have broken wire between relay and alarm ECU.

 

[digcot 65]

Engine ECU is earthing other side of relay when engine ECU is supposed to do it. If engine ECU is not doimg it, then problem is in engine ECU or you have broken wire between relay and engine ECU.

Is that through the alarm its earthing I cant see how since it seems 12v on both sides of relay Len

 

[digcot 65]

Hello Im beginning to feel ,that I am not really up to messing with cars anymore and if I cant sort it out soon I may have to call it a day. Im due for more treatment next week,for my cancer and I dont usually feel like doing much for a while afterwards Len

 

[Roverlike]

Is that through the alarm its earthing I cant see how since it seems 12v on both sides of relay Len

Yes, alarm ECU. Sorry. I corrected the post above.

 

[digcot 65]

Hello Im beginning to feel ,that I am not really up to messing with cars anymore and if I cant sort it out soon I may have to call it a day. Im due for more treatment next week,for my cancer and I dont usually feel like doing much for a while afterwards Len

Forgot to add does anyone know ,where the ECU ALARM (D111) is Len

 

[Julian Foulger]

Between the two wheel wells behind the centre switchgear.