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As could be expected, MG sales are up, but Rover sales are down.

MG sales up 2.19%, but Rover sales down 28.54%

Alot of others faced decreases too:

Here's the full list:

Alfa Romeo - Down 38.92%
BMW - Down 6.29%
Chrysler - Down 27.98%
Citroen - Down 19.62%
Daewoo - Down 78.03%
Daihatsu - Down 6.72%
Fiat - Down 53.96%
Ford - Down 1.33%
Hyundai - Down 6.84%
Isuzu - Down 62.37%
Jaguar - Down 19.97%
Jeep - Down 55.51%
Land Rover - Down 13.96%
Lexus - Down 5.09%
Mercedes-Benz - Down 19.76%
Nissan - Down 3.26%
Perodua - Down 24.59%
Peugeot - Down 17.48%
Rover - Down 28.54%
Seat - Down 15.55%
Skoda - Down 3.99%
Smart - Down 5.85%
Suzuki - Down 7.72%
Vauxhall - Down 5.07%
Volvo - Down 0.13%

Aston Martin - Up 285.71%
Audi - Up 15.94%
Bentley - Up 25.81%
Chevrolet - Up 193,500%
Honda - Up 6.80%
Kia - Up 37.87%
Lotus - Up 44.88%
Mazda - Up 2.63%
MG - Up 2.19%
MINI - Up 3.71%
Mitsubishi - Up 3.35%
Porsche - Up 25.87%
Proton - Up 2.33%
Renault - Up 4.12%
Saab - Up 37.05%
Ssangyong - Up 84.69%
Subaru - Up 7.65%
Tata - Up 9.38%
Toyota - Up 2.92%
Volkswagen - Up 9.11%
 

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Well, its not great, but compared to rivals, its not bad.

I suppose the press will have a field day now, forgetting MG's rise and all the other big losses.
Astom Martin are doing well, but you've got to laugh at Chevrolet! How many cars have they sold then?

I now fear for Fiat, 53% down is not good..........
 
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Combined MG and Rover sales for the UK in March 2005: 12,545
Combined MG and Rover sales for the UK in March 2004: 15,047
 

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mattie007 said:
Well, its not great, but compared to rivals, its not bad.

I suppose the press will have a field day now, forgetting MG's rise and all the other big losses.
Astom Martin are doing well, but you've got to laugh at Chevrolet! How many cars have they sold then?

I now fear for Fiat, 53% down is not good..........
It's dreadful: forget the % decreases and look at MARKET SHARE. It's now under 3% in MGRs last major market. Realistically it needs to be around 5%.
April sales will be an unqualified disaster although I'd expect confidence will return with the deal.

But you can see why there is a cashflow crisis. One has to ask if the Rover marque has much of a future it is continues to collapse. I hope that some major fettling is going to take place because the dealer chain will collapse before new models arrive at this rate.


Chevrolet is of course Daewoo: GM did market research and found 97% of car buyers wouldn't buy a Daewoo but only 94% wouldn't buy a Chevy. That extra 3% is clearly sufficient to justify the global rebranding. As for FIAT...they've lots of good new cars which aren't selling. Worrying times for all car companies.
 

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Well FIAT hardly have a remarkable line up at the moment. The Multipla's facelift has gotten rid of the Novelty, but nevertheless has tidies up what was a frankly weird looking car. It still has that horrible **** though.

The Stilo is a boring car which hardly got great review on its launch. The Punto has been ruined by its latest facelift. The asset they have at the moment that I can think of is the new Panda, but thats hardly an oil painting is it? Plus that has an **** as well...

As well as sales down for its sister Company Alfa, I agree things are not looking good for the Company...

Of Course they have the loyal Italian public, backed by a media that doesn't jab at them all of the time; they could pull this back...
 

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I think we shouldn't forget that the negative publicity had been cranked up before the weekend so a lot of the rubbish that filled the news has impacted on these sales figures. There is no doubt that April's figures will be equally dreary given what we are going through at the moment.

It seems to me that we can't be surprised a combination of negative press speculation and genuine uncertainty amongst the public as to the future of MG-Rover makes it difficult to sell cars to any other than real fans of the marques. When you look at it like that I think there must at least be some hope that when the JV is done some people who will otherwise buy something else will look at MGR products and buy with confidence and the sales figures will improve accordingly. In the medium term though only new models will get the market share back to the kind of levels that will bring in profits.
 

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Saab

Interesting that Saab sales are up. The current television advertisement still plays
on the links with the aircraft company although now they're really just another part of "junk bond" GM, and a loss making one at that, with continual hints of production in Sweden being moved elsewhere. Just shows what you can do when the press aren't tearing you apart!
 

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A 53% drop from Fiat could at best be described as a sales collapse.

At worse a disaster, and a sure sign that whatever it is they are trying to turnaround, it clearly is not working.
 

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It was strange to see that all the 'semi prestige' marques suffered a decrease in sales. The only one not to was Audi.

Chrysler and Jeep seem to be suffering big decreases, along with Fiat that was mentioned above. Alfa Romeo also took a big hit - and that is with a much newer range of vehicles than MG Rover have.

Similarly Peugeot suffered a 17.48% decrease in sales. The 407 is brand new out, and should have kept their sales buoyant.
 

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A bit off-topic, but Fiat as a traditional brand deserves it:

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A 53% drop from Fiat could at best be described as a sales collapse.

At worse a disaster, and a sure sign that whatever it is they are trying to turnaround, it clearly is not working.
I have just taken a look at the German sales figures (for January and February 2005). Fiat is down 44,4% compared to last year, Alfa Romeo down 34,8% :scary:

I have not noticed that before, it is very alarming that the Fiat sales are crashing in the UK and Germany...

I was not so sure some time ago if they are able to survive alone, but this gives the answer NO. I have read some time ago that the Stilo sales are very weak (was something like 140,000 last year, expected were 600,000 or so). So they are mainly selling very small cars, this can hardly work...

Maybe they will be really taken over or broken up in a not so distant future, my speculation was that in this case Alfa Romeo and Maserati will be interesting for Volkswagen.
 

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Citroen were also down by a significant amount and for B*W to be down really says it all about the (lack of) success being enjoyed by the one series, even amongst wannabe snobs who sadly constitute an ever-growing part of British society :err:

Back to MGR, given that they have probably one of the oldest model ranges available today and can still return a credible performance, is indicative of the strength and proferssionalism of the Phoenix 4. Well done guys :)

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mattie007 said:
If Fiat go bust, will ferrari?!!!!!!!!!
No, Ferrari has been hived off as a separate company. It used to be tied with Maserati, but they moved Maserati to sit alongside Alfa Romeo.
 
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