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Lumpy engine on start up - 214

2K views 26 replies 12 participants last post by  Mike12345  
#1 ·
Howdy all,

Last week when started car up in morning(kept in garage overnight), it didnt start properly, it didnt fire up properly, it was quicker, it just seemed to almost turn straight on, and was really noisy...like a boom boom kinda noise.

Really loud, chugging, and could feel car vibrating.

It went after a minute.

Then today, it did the same, revered out the garage, stopped...(its a steep drive), left in neutral, and went to shut garage, it was rather loud, then then got in, revered up drive, but it didnt seem to want to move much or fast up the drive, like i was meeting resistance.

Then drove down road and fine again.

Also there was water on the floor....

Never seen that in a while.
 
#5 ·
It does lose coolant...but im not fussed about that slow dribble, just waiting till i can be assed to trace it!

Si reckons it may be firing on only 3 cylinders...?

Might replace everything, needs a bit of a service.

HT leads, spark plugs checked earlier, looked fine from a brief look?
 
#9 ·
sounds like u have a hgf, Mine was doing the same thing up to today, took off the oil cap and found water inside of it . I was losing water as well, even checked to see if it was falling on the coil but nada. The engine is mixing oil with water. it sounded like a boat, chugging and shaking the entire car. Hope i havn't damaged the head. I remembered that the online shop sold an improved headgasket, but i am not seeing it anymore, are they still selling them? I need to hav eone shipped to me in Barbados asap, also does anyone know where i can purchae the tool to unbolt the head, and slos the cost of it?many thanks.
Good luck with ure problem mate
 
#10 ·
Change the HT leads as they are the most likely cause of misfiring from a cold start that disappears as the engine warms up. I'm betting the car is fine for the rest of the day even from cold starts, just it misfires in the morning after the damp gets into the HT leads. The leads usualy do look fine but they breakdown internally.

Also fix that coolant leak before it gets worse or you overheat the car!
 
#13 ·
michaelperrin said:
ETV that sounds more like it, describes everything spot on that happens:)

Off to change them me thinks...
Is that not what I said? Damp HT electrics.....the leads are the worst offenders.

Cured a mates vi on Wednesday evening - it wouldn't start Wednesday morning - a new set of leads and Thursday morning it sprang into life. One happy vi owner :)
 
#14 ·
Dascoupe said:
Yeh, I replaced the Ht leads, Spark plugs, Dizzy cap and rotor arm. Now everything seems fine.

two contections in my dizzy cap and worn right down, causing the misfiring.
The only moving parts left in an ignition system - nowadays coil packs are used but these aren't as reliable as many would have hoped....
 
#15 ·
Major Ingram said:
Is that not what I said? Damp HT electrics.....the leads are the worst offenders.

Cured a mates vi on Wednesday evening - it wouldn't start Wednesday morning - a new set of leads and Thursday morning it sprang into life. One happy vi owner :)

little off topic here,

where did you get the ht leads from???, my parts shop only stocked the ones for the mgf and there about 12" to short :ziplip:

also what sort of money???
 
#17 ·
neilwalls said:
Halfords do the 216 ones for ÂŁ25 so id imagine the 214 would be similar?

yeah iirc the 214 and 216 ones are the same but mines the 1.8vvc so it's a wasted spark engine, i.e. no distributer and no coil lead, so only a set of 4 for me and there about 30"long :lol:
 
#22 ·
Si said:
yeah iirc the 214 and 216 ones are the same but mines the 1.8vvc so it's a wasted spark engine, i.e. no distributer and no coil lead, so only a set of 4 for me and there about 30"long :lol:

Measure the length you need,
http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/HTleads/HTleads.html
half way down the page you'll see just about every size you could want. Best part they cost only ÂŁ2-ÂŁ4 per lead and they are decent!
HTH
 
#24 ·
Eh! There not DIY cables, they are pre-made, and higher quality than the likes of halfords own brands!

BTW they specialise in vehicle wiring and have been for more than 30years. They are VERY good and not one person i have heard of has had anything bad to say about them.

All cables are effectively made from the components they sell anyway.
 
#25 ·
Whats wrong with DIY cables anyway? I have all the crimping tools needed, and i could use 10mm (or even bigger cable if i wanted) to make some for a fraction of the cost of 8mm Magnecors. The quality of the connection would be just as good as any pre-made products.
 
#26 ·
Mikey - before you replace them, check the condition of the contacts to the sparks at the bottom of the plugs.

Not a fan of the VVC, its not like VTEC when it comes in at a certain RPM, its always active. They suffer from dying bearings and early cambelt replacements :( but hey, if it works, it works :)