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Right not for me but I'm thinking I shall go & look all he same, its for my dad.

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Metalic blue ( I presume tahiti ?? )
64k miles ( pretty darn good for a diesel )
P reg 96/97
Superb condition is written. ( we shall see )


Right thats all the information I have on it I phoned & it should be available to view wednesday, so what do I need to know about it.

Its lower spec model as its SD

so it will include no electric windows or alloy wheels, however my dad doesnt want electric windows & I wouldnt on the 200 as they break that often.....I have some hairpins so I might as well give my dad them :)

Most important thing for my dad on extras is , does it include the Electric sunroof, from parkers I believe it does but I know parkers isnt always 100%



Other than that, it states 49mpg on parkers & I think it'll do more than that, what is the realistic amount for a 30mile trip to work ( long roads ) & 30miles back everyday...... my dad gets 50 mpg with his ford escort estate 1.8 atm so I'm sure its more economic than that.

Finally I have owned a 200 myself, & noticed things to look for were arches rusting , but lock rusting, boot hinges rusting, other than that anything to look for bodywise.....


& as I 've not owned a diesel before especially the L series, what things should I look for on it.... ( I will be looking at the service history :) )

thanks guys , I'm really happy dads decided to get a 200 , I used to like my old one.
 

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come on guys I know someone must own one of these , just a lil advise on problems experienced would do ....
 

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well my wife had a sd and hers had elec windows ,remote central locking,elec sunroof,and as for mpg,it was good,the only reason i replaced it with a rover 25 was ,i wanted abs and the intercooled version for her and me,lol, when i drive it.
 

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Wouldn't bother with the SD, go for the better SDI with the intercooler.

The SD has approx 83bhp, and the SDi has 105bhp with better fuel economy and performance.

The only problem with the L series is the intercooler hose, as they occasionally split. Otherwise, the L series is virtually bomb proof.

You should hopefully get 50mpg from the SDi, depends how it is driven really.

Apologies for the late reply, most of TEAM TRACTOR were at the Cosford meet yesterday!!!

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lol ta



Yeah I understand about the intercooler version, but you see my dad doesn't exactly care about speed, he had a go of my 1.8 & said OOOOh thats powerful then drove it by revving it maximum at 2.5 k. He has a 1.8 escort diesel atm which is non turbo non cooled, lol & extremely slow. All he wants is a car able to do 50+ mpg & be reliable at the same time..... I kept saying R25 diesel or 400 diesel, but he just saw this one in the paper so cheap & as its says excellent condition he would like a look at it.
 

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lol ta



Yeah I understand about the intercooler version, but you see my dad doesn't exactly care about speed, he had a go of my 1.8 & said OOOOh thats powerful then drove it by revving it maximum at 2.5 k. He has a 1.8 escort diesel atm which is non turbo non cooled, lol & extremely slow. All he wants is a car able to do 50+ mpg & be reliable at the same time..... I kept saying R25 diesel or 400 diesel, but he just saw this one in the paper so cheap & as its says excellent condition he would like a look at it.
But the SDi has better fuel economy as well, this is due to more torque and power. No need to change gear as often, so saves fuel.

Another good arguement to give to your dad.

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lol we'll see on wednesday, if he wants it he ll buy it he just wants to know whether they re going to be as reliable as his escort ...... you had any problems ?
 

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plus you wouldn't mind borrowing it either.
lol for some reason I can not drive a diesel to save my life, I've had a go of loads, a passat TDI & I just stall them, I presume its the clutch or something but I ve never driven a diesel without stalling it & theyre suppose to be hard to stall, well I suppose most of the time I do try drivin my dads classic landrover 2.5 litre diesel from the 60's :p now thats SLOW ;)

However I believe the SDI is as fast as my 1.8 as I wanted one quite badly when buying a ZS , just they're so rare & then so much more expensive just because they re a diesel , but as soon as I heard the petrol 1.8 rev I couldn't resist ......
 

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my SD has electric windows but no central locking :) so it'll probably be one or t'other

couldnt fault mine from 105k when I bought it to 120k 2 years later, never put a foot wrong :)
 

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I've just been looking on auto trader for the SDI's & there is none available as cheap or as low mileage or as good condition as this one were looking at, I could try convincing my dad but if theres nothing there to look at instead....
 

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...... you had any problems ?
The only major problem i had with mine is a broken earth strap, from battery to bodywork, and the actuator adjuster came off. This was fixed with a 15p circlip!!! :broon:

Nothing highly major has happened to mine at all, and it is currently running higher than original spec.

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cool, I was looking into all the moding the L series to achieve the 150bhp lol ( sounds like fun ) but dad just doesnt seem to be interested. I reckon he ll be happy with this one especially for the money, I just hope it isnt cheap because its crap ( putting it bluntly )

when do you need the cambelt doing on the car & servicing such as that ?
 

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regardless what mileage the manufacturers say,i say 40,000 is enough for the rubber band on any engine,and then you cant go wrong,the sd your looking might be a nice little car ,without faults,but it still won't be as nice to drive than the intercooled version,getting out of junctions is so much easier with the extra power,and so is over taking.
 

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regardless what mileage the manufacturers say,i say 40,000 is enough for the rubber band on any engine,and then you cant go wrong,the sd your looking might be a nice little car ,without faults,but it still won't be as nice to drive than the intercooled version,getting out of junctions is so much easier with the extra power,and so is over taking.

lol no ones listening :p

yeah I know the intercooled version is 20bhp better off, however my dad currently drives an old escort 1.8 (1990 model ) an estate too, its probably never overtaken anything ever & hes not the type to pull out in front of someone as hes never in a hurry ( ie hes always half an hour early ) 84 bhp sounds pretty decent to me I mean I've had the taste of a sub 50 bhp fiesta, & thats ok to go a to b. Plus if you can find an SDI for 1000 pounds excellent condition at 64 k miles then I ll snap your arms off for it , but I can't find one in my area less than 90k & they cost 1600 pounds which in all fairness is a tad high for an old car such as the 200.....if it was 50 k miles for 1600pounds I would consider it.


I just part ex 'd my 25 1.4 for 1400 pounds at 47k miles so theres no way I m paying more than that for a 200 ......unless its immaculate
 

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on my 420td i got better economy when i did roverron`s free L series tune on it,i was changing up earlier and having to spend less time on the throttle to get to the required speed and less throttle to keep it there, i know get approx 54mpg and cruse at 70-90 om m-ways
 

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They are good cars, if your dads happy with the performance.....go for it, it sounds like a good deal......make sure you give a real good going over:broon:
 

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update


the 220 sold but now

just looked at a 25 2litre IE

first impressions

good condition for the age only one small dent, ( dink )
3 door ( not good but livable )
no rust ( bar the usual hinges )
no mudflaps ( spose it was when they were taking things off to save money )
no colour coded wing mirrors ( perhaps been in a few knocks ??? )
colour coded front splitter ( usually black on 25's just thought tht was odd )
aestheticly then the car was pretty good

Engine bay
auxillary belts needed changing
oil extremely gloopy,
lil bits of rust here & there but id say mostly down to it not being kept clean

overall impression needs a good service ( inc cambelt probably )

Inside,
handbrake loose as Ive ever felt one , ( even on my 200 which almost failed an MOT for its looseness it was nt that bad )
clutch ABSOLUTELY stiff ( is this normal the garage man said it is i dont believe him )
brakes ( basically dont work, feel like theyre rubbing grinding so definately need changing )
engine very rough making a PA TUT PA TUT kinda noise right up until I gave it a good rag, then it sounded nice ( when no idling ) however engine temperature rose to 3/4 as I never have had a diesel I wouldnt know if thats normal but my petrols are all below half ,

so whats your comments ( things in red I would like answers on as Im interested )


Oh yeah finally when they handed me the keyfob I instantly decided it was not a low mileaged car, it says 56k on the clock but the keyfob said to be 120k it was well used , smoothed over definately a car which has been used for short journeys so 56k of short journeys cant be good for the car.

Tell me how much you think its worth & what you think of it please


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Hiya,

Can help you on the following (I have a '53 streetwise TD):
- My temp guage stays at about 2/3 max - apparently this is normal
- My engine was a bit rough when I got it (my first diesel, so didn't realise!). After a few long runs, it is now sweet. Rattles a bit when started from cold.
- Clutch feels ok to me, but my GF thought it felt a bit heavy
- My keyfob looked like new (car 26k)
 

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Hiya,

Can help you on the following (I have a '53 streetwise TD):
- My temp guage stays at about 2/3 max - apparently this is normal
- My engine was a bit rough when I got it (my first diesel, so didn't realise!). After a few long runs, it is now sweet. Rattles a bit when started from cold.
- Clutch feels ok to me, but my GF thought it felt a bit heavy
- My keyfob looked like new (car 26k)

thanks least I know the temperature is normal, feels like a really nice engine when pushed suits the size of the car really well I thought.

Just the clutch thats bothering me now, my dad says he wants a car that'll be nice for town driving as well as the long run to work, so a heavy clutch isn't what he s after.......
 
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