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If NAC MG relaunches Austin....

5.2K views 73 replies 29 participants last post by  nathandavid88  
#1 ·
If it relaunches Austin will it use model number or names I wonder?

Previous names:
Cambridge
Somerset

there must be more but can't think of them...can only think of Morris ones!


Possible new names:
Lincoln
York
Middlesex
Suffolk
Any more suggestions?
 
#10 ·
They could just go with alphanumeric names like they're doing with MG. Austins will probably just be less sporty variants of the MGs, so the same numbers could be kept.

Austin A70 (MG 7Z)
Austin A50 (MG 5Z)
Austin A30 (MG 3Z)

Though Nanjing does build a fairly modern SUV that could form the basis for a new Austin Champ.
 
#13 ·
They could just go with alphanumeric names like they're doing with MG. Austins will probably just be less sporty variants of the MGs, so the same numbers could be kept.

Austin A70 (MG 7Z)
Austin A50 (MG 5Z)
Austin A30 (MG 3Z)

Though Nanjing does build a fairly modern SUV that could form the basis for a new Austin Champ.

Austin 7,5 and 3 sound good to me.
 
#17 ·
What about the Austin Maxxi - I know BMW own the Maxi name but I'm sure NAC could get away with using an extra x. Plus along with Metro, it could set up a family naming line starting with M and five letters long.
 
#18 ·
I wouldnt use Austin for the mainland of Europe......
that brandname is cursed overhere.

When people think of Austin.... They think about late Montego's... rusting and prehistoric design. It had a reason that BMW pulled that brandname.

When it came out the Montego was modern. But in the end it could only compete at price. Not on design/economics/reliabilty and certainly not on quality.
 
#19 ·
The same could have been said for the 1990 to 2000 escort by ford, dated when new, and positively pre-historic when finally killed off in 2000 - Ford got away with it. I think in 1994, the Montego was an equal to the Orion/Escort saloon for example.

The fact that Austin as a brand died, only fuels the perception that they were archaic cars, when the truth is that in the late 80's that wasnt particularly true.

I think Austin can be re-launched, and the flying wing badge is a perfect one, brilliantly conceived all those years ago.
 
#23 · (Edited)
In terms of names, I like the older models that had the A-number and then the name of an area like Cambridge or Westminister. The names of places used seem well known and would go down a treat in China i reckon! No matter what they choose to name it, it should follow on from Austin's most famous classics like the A35 and A40 with a A-- designation!
 
#24 ·
Although I love the idea of reinstating a traditional British brand-name, I really feel that 'Austin' is just such a bad idea if you want to appeal to a young market. To me (I'm 25) as soon as someone says 'Austin' I think of Mike Myers lampooning britishness and that isn't the image of a sophisticated automotive car brand. I'd imagine 75%+ of my peers would probably make the same association - Austin Powers and its sequels are so widely known.

If you were going to use Austin, the car names would have to distance themselves from anything remotely laughable (whether rightly or wrongly - this will be buisness not justice). Quite frankly, any county names just sound... well... naff. Any past names will remind people of the bad British Leyland past and should also be avoided.

I think a good car name should do the following:

  • Work well lyrically with the brand name - something that rolls of the tongue well.
  • Hint at the car's strong points i.e. remind of luxury if it's going to aim at the executive market, sound exciting if it's meant to be sporty.
  • Whilst aiming at the above, not be cheesy or obvious. e.g. Austin Flash or Austin Opulent UNLESS it's the BEST CAR EVER EVER EVER. Think about the Skoda Superb? I mean its definately a Skoda Amazing Value For Money but not really superb...
  • Numbers can be good as they avoid pitfalls of laughable naming but have the disadvantage of being a bit non-descript.

As a thought perhaps we should list some good brand named cars from other companys and reflect why the name works?

For example (and this is regardless of the actual car mind): Ford Focus

The alliteration of the F and the puncyness of two syllabled 'Focus' makes it fairly pleasant to say.
Focus hints at precision both in (Ford hope!) design, construction and drive. It's a word that perhaps trys to shy away from the fact that this is a family car and tries to market it more as a drivers car?
 
#30 ·
yo 75j! If you are our favourite RJ, you and the Iraqi Information Minister share a lot of things, not least your ability to put across another worldview.

So there was I searching the internet yesterday to find the Austin badge, only to find that the clearest version in the world is in RichardK's avatar...

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Not sure, if we called a model the "Austin Diana", what it would say about the car's handling in tunnels TBH :(

As for counties, these would be up-to-date ones:

Austin Greater London (no problem with "Middlesex")
Austin Avon. Ding-dong!
Austin Humberside

or

Austin brought to you in association with West Midlands Metropolitan Borough Council!
 
#40 ·
Morris was based in Oxford, of course, so here's what BMH have to say:

http://www.bmh-ltd.co.uk/trademarks/morris.htm

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When W.R. Morris launched his car building business with the 1913 Morris Oxford, he didn’t have to look too hard for a marque logo - he adopted and adapted the Oxford City Arms, which show an Ox above a ford.

The basic logo was used with remarkably little change, albeit in many different settings, on the front of Morris cars right up until 1971, with the last of the Farina Morris Oxfords, and its removal from the Morris 1100, 1300 and 1800 models. It did not appear on the subsequent Morris Marina and Ital models, as these carried the relevant corporate identifiers, such as the Leyland roundel or the Austin Morris ‘wing’.

The Morris marque lapsed with the end of Ital production in 1983/4.
 
#41 ·
There was of course another Morris badge used to replace the Ox & Ford on the MKII 1100's and 1800's- its suspiciously like the Nissan/London Underground one- a chrome circle with a horizontal band through the middle with the Morris script. Its quite a nice badge actually; I don't know why it didn't make it onto the Marina.

The Austin coat of arms badge was last seen (I think) on the steering wheel centres of the early Maxi's and first Allegro's. There's nothing wrong with using it again- its not neccessarily 'pompous', its history. To use it again would strengthen the link to the old company and to the man himself.
 
#42 ·
The Austin coat of arms badge was last seen (I think) on the steering wheel centres of the early Maxi's and first Allegro's. There's nothing wrong with using it again- its not neccessarily 'pompous', its history. To use it again would strengthen the link to the old company and to the man himself.
I agree, the Austin coat of arms would be the best choice, especially as it sticks two fingers up at SAIC's fake Rongwei shield.

As for model names, i just got a good idea that no one seems to have come up with. How about the Austin A70 Longbridge :D. Any takers?
 
#43 ·
i cant believe you lot debating which tinpot chinese outfit should own the austin name! ,austins are a british car made in britain by britons it wont be a austin for gods sake it wil be a crappy chinese heap called a austin wheres your pride for gods sake!!
 
#46 ·
i cant believe you lot debating which tinpot chinese outfit should own the austin name! ,austins are a british car made in britain by britons it wont be a austin for gods sake it wil be a crappy chinese heap called a austin wheres your pride for gods sake!!
How do you know it will he a crappy Chinese car made in China?

Fact 1: NAC are going to use British-design vehicles that are being brough up to date as we speak by Lotus and ARUP, two other British companies.

Fact 2: NAC have a long term rent deal on Longbridge South Works and have plans to build cars there. The MG TF will be the first, the MG version of the 75 will follow suit, and according to a recent interview in the Chinese News Thread, other models could also be built in LB, and possibly be exported to sell in China. It's very possible that Austin models could be produced in LB as well.

Don't write off the Chinese before you see their plans come to fruition, they might well suprise you!