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HI ALL!!!!

I have just joined your site which looks awesome!!
Anyway i was wondering if theres any1 on here that could help me! i am just away to buy a zr 105 but before i put it on the road im gonna rip out the 1400cc engine and put in a rover 220 coupe turbo engine in it. so im just after a few clues to how hard a job it is? any help will be much appreiciated. :toastie:
 

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im gonna rip out the 1400cc engine and put in a rover 220 coupe turbo engine in it
There have been lots of turbo conversions done on here, use the search function, the engine is called a T series in case you didn't know.

Why don't you just buy a used ZR 160 and tune that up? A VVC ZR with near 180bhp will be as fast as a T series powered motor on a track/bendy road. Also factor in high insurance, cost of conversion (£3000+ for a good job it seems), the parts availability for the T series (not sure about this but bear in mind the last Rover car they put it in was the 600 which went out of production over half a decade ago), plus other bits and bobs like uprated brakes etc etc.

How serious are you about this?
 

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very serious doin it regardless of cost. i just wrote off my m3 a couple of weeks ago so now ill not get insurance for a powerfull car unless i buy a small powered car and change engine and also buy a big padlock for my bonnet. lol. im gonna be doin it over a period of 6months so ive got plenty of time to do it! ive had quite a few N/A cars now and a couple turbo and you cant beat that turbo kick!! im gonna do a bit of tuning to the engine too. eg bigger turbo, chip, exhaust! i'd ideally like 300 horse is this easily acheivable?
 

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300bhp requires a complete rebuild with forged internals. Gearbox will most likely need uprated bearings and potentially even the Torsen diff replacing if you get a high miler to do the conversion.

Basically you need a 220 or Coupe Turbo as a donor car as you will need mounts, subframes, wiring etc from this model.

Have a search on here, and on Rovertech.net for information on the conversion.
 

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very serious doin it regardless of cost. i just wrote off my m3 a couple of weeks ago so now ill not get insurance for a powerfull car unless i buy a small powered car and change engine and also buy a big padlock for my bonnet
How many times????? YOU STILL HAVE TO TELL YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY IF YOU CHANGE YOUR ENGINE. They're not stupid, and cottoned onto the old buy a crap car put a huge engine in scam a long long time ago. Simply put, if your insurance documents say that you're driving a 1400 ZR and you smash it up/run into another car/someone is injured due to your driving, you will not be covered by the insurance company. It doesn't take a genius to look under a bonnet and realize that a 1400 K series isn't a huge cast iron lump with a turbocharger bolted on the bottom. Not only will you be faced with a potential bill for thousands of pounds personal accidents claim, but may have to go to court to face charges of criminal negligence for driving without insurance. I know all this because I have a friend who was involved in an accident with a Ford Escort RS Cosworth which was a 1.3 Escort Popular on the insurance books, it is very unkind to do this to people as she ended up receiving no insurance payout from either her or the other party's insurance company and it basically ruined her life for about 6 months.

I'm not sure how the insurance is stacked, but insurance on a highly modified car with a 2 litre turbo running at the 300bhp you're after will ring alarm bells in most insurance companies, I imagine the premium will be pretty high. If you factor in - cost of purchasing ZR and donor Coupe Turbo, engine rebuild and conversion, new brakes, new gearbox, new suspension setup to counter the bulk of that T series lump, engine work to get it to 300bhp, plus insurance cost, you're looking at a whole lot of money!
Wouldn't it be cheaper to either get a Coupe Turbo, tune up a ZR 160/ Vi or buy a second hand Scooby WRX? What you'd lose on outright price you'd more than make up for in savings on all the work needed doing.
I'm not having a go I'm just trying to make you see that it isn't a simple thing to be taken lightly and I don't want you to get stuck with a nightmare job on your hands after thinking it would be easy.
 

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small car + powerful engine = VERY expencive insurance. Been told its slighty harder to do the conversion with a ZR. Few complications have been found etc.

Ideally you need a donor car to do it and a lot of time on your hands as the wiring is a pain in the bum.
As Stu said, 300bhp is achievable, but its VERY expensive. You'll need a bigger turbo, head work done, forged internals, cams, aftermarket ECU, such as DTA etc. To put it into perspective, people have spent around 8k and not got 300bhp out of these engines.

Just to let you know.
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Ive done this conversion and the guys are right you do need to tell your insurance company or your not covered!
 

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The zed conversion very much different to a bubble one. but wen on the road jst as much fun.

Love mine and wudnt go back well maybe for a ZS180 :=p:

insurance is a lot but i guess if ya where able to insure a M3 then happily then it shudnt be too bad, but defo a must.

As for the power u can get to 270 pretty easily maybe that is a better option. Internals, FMIC, Bigger Turbo, Boost Cut Chip.

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I had a 160 tuned to 180, but have to admit after having the 2.0ltr Turbo conversion it now goes so much better even on twisty roads. Suspension was lowered 35mm anyway and to me it handles better than before and of course comes into its own on straight roads. Am well impressed with the performance increase and would never have got this much fun modding the K series engine.
I suppose a 35bhp shot of nitrous helps too.....lol

There were quite a few differences between the ZR and Rover conversions so a big thanks to RSM for sorting it all out and doing a really neat install.....cheers guys :)
 
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