If its just a fine you could ignore it and all the follow up letters, I have heard, they only chase up a proportion. Points - don't know.

Delaying tactics until you get full license maybe..? How long do you have to respond?

 

i think i will just be a good boy and reply and all, but about the delay tactics, i just looked at my liscence and its only untill the 14 of next month i have to wait till i get my full 12 points, so even in the worst case cenario; i.e 3 points it is quite possible that by the time all the paperwork is done and the possible 3 points given i might not loose my liscence!! hopefully anyway!
i have 28 days to respond to the first letter,then they will send me the penalty or the conditional one (the speeding coarse)
this makes me feel ever so slightly better about my first speeding fine, im still an idiot tho!

 

Did they have a camera to prove your were speeding? Ah so it was a gatso speed camera, did you not have a sat nav????


They will put your points on from the date the offence was commited, so 6 points in first 2 years of passing your test. You will most likely have to retake your theory and practical test. Essentially you will go back to having a provisional license, so you will need to be supervised while in the car.

 

dont do 90 again ,when i am on a motor way cars go past me ,i dont wont points or fine,

 

It's not much good telling him that really mate, kinda like telling someone who has is obese that they shouldn't have eaten fatty foods, or like telling a smoker who is termin.......Get it?

I was young once and my children are young now. My eldest has 6 points and has had 2 accidents.
If there were speed cameras around when i was 20 and i had my MGB you can bet your last £1 that i would have had a few.....and then some, A34 through Woodstock, to the south coast, Littlehampton and Brighton i used to go very regularly from Derbyshire, it was a blast.
Sorry to hear you have mucho points finyuk but as great kahn says buy a satnav, a good one like a tom tom and save your licence. Good luck to you mate.

 

As said previously, the points count from the date of offence, so delaying tactics will do nothing.
Anything over 20% the speed limit can generate an automatic court appearance in some counties, so the lower speeds are worse. eg: 37 in a 30 can be a court appearance. But 90 in a 70 is nearly 30% over the limit.
If you are offered the 3 points I would take them (after photo evidence). If you can prove extreme hardship then sometimes you can keep your licence (as was my case) but you need a very understanding judge. I've found the courts in the South East are not very forgiving, not sure about the northern ones.
My understanding is they only allow you to do a safety course if you have had no speeding offences in the last two years. Again if it is offered I would snap their hand off!, you only get 10 days to reply to the offer and the course cost is anything from £60.00 to £140.00.
Good luck!

 

unlucky mate, definitely get yourself a satnav or snooper, or better still dont speed. My idiot son passed his test last tuesday morning, then 24hrs later got a ticket for doing 80 in a 60, he's quite worried that he could lose his licence.

 

It's not much good telling him that really mate, kinda like telling someone who has is obese that they shouldn't have eaten fatty foods, or like telling a smoker who is termin.......Get it?

I was young once and my children are young now. My eldest has 6 points and has had 2 accidents.

:rofl:

Sorry I just thought it was a fairly funny combination of statements.

 

as an ex speed awareness instructor is is very unlikely you will get the offer of a speed awareness course.
the criteria is that you have not exceeded the speed limit by more than 10 mph. as your speed is indicated at 20 over the limit then unfortunately you will have the points and fine..
I'd pay the fine, take the points and hope they dont realise that you are within the 2 years 6 point limit.

DONT even think of getting your mate to say he was driving and take the points for you, its preverting the course of justice and if found out can have dire consequences.

 

I got caught doing 41 in a 30 not so long ago, unfortunately the speed awareness course can only be done if you are invited to. Not all forces do it and the selection criteria is also quite niche. I would'nt get your hopes up!

Tbh though if you already have 3 points on your license in your first 2 years and have been doing 90mph (easily over 100mph on the 25 clocks) they Police won't have any sympathy for you, and neither do I im afraid.

 

hi folks, well unfortunatly i recieved a slightly unwelcolm letter from northern constabulary!
i was flashed doing exactly 90 on a 70mph dual carrageway.

what i was just wondering was i anyone had any thoughts on the likelyhood of them letting me take a speeding course and a fine instead of the 3 points?
i already have 3 points on my liscence, and i only get my full 12 points next month, so am in danger of looseing it.
i am gutted and not feeling very clever at the moment!!

Chances I would say would be - none.

Not what you want to hear but it's your own fault.

It would be like me being on 9 points and doing the same. Most of us go over the limit from time to time but if I was in that situation then there is no way I would risk going over the limit.

I have been caught speeding twice in 18yrs and even getting 3 points hits home and makes me more careful until they are off my licence and I am allowed up to 12 points.

 

I was caught doing 43 in a 30 last year and I crapped myself because it was ~40% over the limit...

...but to my relief I only got 3pts/£60.

But it scared me a bit so from then on I drive in 3rd gear in 30mph zones, 4th in 40 zones, cruise control on 60/70 roads etc...

You'll probably get 3pts

 

I was caught doing 43 in a 30 last year and I crapped myself because it was ~40% over the limit...

...but to my relief I only got 3pts/£60.

But it scared me a bit so from then on I drive in 3rd gear in 30mph zones, 4th in 40 zones, cruise control on 60/70 roads etc...

You'll probably get 3pts

I think you are ok for 3pts up to 49 or 50mph. My last one was 48 and I just missed a court appearance.

 

Hopefully the lesson will be learnt???

Get a sat nav to keep a more accurate eye on your speed.

There at times we could all be caught out a bit over the limit but 90???????????? Did the head gasket blow at that sort of speed?

There's nowt macho about being early for your own funeral...or indeed giving someone else theirs early..calm down dear as Michael Winner would say.

 

Oh come on, you can sit at 90 all day on the motorway and you'll never get pulled over, and contrary to popular belief it won't kill you, what's more you'll have a stream of Audi's going past you at around 100. Then the occasional one at 110, shortly followed by a BMW/Volvo with blue flashing lights.

To be fair I've sat in a mates audi and he drives at around 100, but he's a good driver and it doesn't bother me at all, leaves plenty of space and is aware of what's happening around him etc.
Other people terrify me at 80...

 

Lie. Say that the car was stolen by joyriders and then returned with no damage. You never bothered reporting it to the Police because you didnt want to waste there time plus there was no damage to the car.

 

I really would advise that you do NOT take this advice

 

I believe in flexibility of the law to deal with situations in a way that is right. Speed limits are there to prevent dangerous driving. Driving at 90 in a capable car on a perfectly straight clean bit of road is not dangerous, otherwise racing drivers would all be dead by now (Which isn't to say roads should be a race track). I believe the speed limits are about right. If they were higher people would drive faster.

I believe going mad with speed cameras while not bothering to stop people driving with a phone in their hands is madness, and does not promote respecting the law.

I also believe that improving the standard of driving and ability to adapt with different conditions of the road would save more lives.

 

The percentage of drivers who speed on motorways is waaaaaay higher than people will admit. 80% perhaps.

 

I do, every single day and I have a clean licence.

 

The best advice is take it like a man not a winging wimpering excuse of an individual by lying about who was driving etc.

Some lessons are harder learnt than others but good news is you are still alive and not damaged.

If you take in to account all the times you have ever exceeded the speed limit in your driving career so far I bet you are still ahead. We all are.

 

I would not try anything fancy, if you lose (not loose!) your licence it is bad but it is better than being banged up for perverting the course of justice. Believe me the authorities are VERY hard on that.

 

my old sherpa 2.ltr perkins ,so they say could top 85mph ,i used 70mph on motorways,

 

So .... Advice. No preeching.

Check the date of the offence and the date they sent out the notice of intended prosecution. They only have 14 days. If they are over, they are out of time they cannot proceed to court.

You could also ask for the valid calibration certificates. Both of these measures will not increase any penalties but may disclose areas where the prosecuting authority have not complied with conditions.

 

The only reason the speed limit is 70 is because if it went up to 80, then police know that lots of motorists would do 90. In reality most motorways are 80 as I sit on them daily, 90 is not unusual if the road is clear. ever read of anyone being done for 80 in normal driving conditions on an Mway?

I won't tempt fate, but I've never been pulled over for speeding in 35 years.

LJK Setright (rip) the great lunatic who wrote for CAR always maintened that he drove fast as conditions safely permitted. I've effectively followed that advice. I don't tailgate, go to close or do 50 in bult up areas. But I do like to floor it when there's an open road, otherwise I'd not bother driving at all.

 

hello again chaps
well goin on most of your opinions i think it would be optimistic to even hope of keeping a liscence unfortunatly, as for the crackin advice about lying and blame it on someone else! i think i'll leave it! i wouldnt dream of messing the law around in that way and before anyone says, yes ok i broke the law speeding, but honestly who has'nt?
althought this wasnt a motorway, it was a bullit straight bit of dual carrigeway, the road was bone dry, a lovely clear day, and the only reason i was goin that fast was to pass a couple of lorries before the end, as i knew for a fact i would'nt have a safe opportunity to do so for another 20 odd miles, and after passing them i did slow back down to 70, on the clocks.
also, i did have tim the tomtom with me, but he didnt seem to know about this camera!
i do think i am a safe driver, even though i have done some daft things like taking a corner slightly too fast, its never ever been without a clear view of the road ahead, always a road i know well and i never mess around if i have anyone in the car with me. i might me young yet at the tender age of 18! but i would say i have more experience than most my age, for instance the A9, the road i got booked on, i have been up and down it from glasgow to thurso (around 250 miles each way) at least 14 times in the last 4 or 5 months alone and thats on top of the usual running around.

 

90mph on the A9 - clear road or not I have zero sympathy for you, trying to overtake lorries at the last minute is why so many people are killed on that road.

 

i was in no danger o killing myself there, i had passed and slowed down well before the end of the carrigeway, dont know about you, but i would far rather use a bit more speed on a straight, clear road to pass a lorry then try it on the real dangerous, windey bits of the A9. you are right though, it is one hell of a dangerous road.

 

Agree with what you are saying and I would prefer to pass on the straight bit but wouldn't even consider risking on the twists. At the same time it's a road I don't speed on because Police are crawling all over it and there are enough idiots around as well. Used it a few months ago going to Pitlochry and had to sit behind an HGV for a number of miles but a BMW behind decided not to wait and just missed a head on crash.

 

so from reading earlier posts in this thread (sorry to hijack a little) - the points given are from the date of offence, not conviction?

Soooo, 3 years after the offence, they're clear?

I'm asking because I got given my 5 points almost a year after getting caught, and if thats the case then they should be cleared this year! :lol:

 

so from reading earlier posts in this thread (sorry to hijack a little) - the points given are from the date of offence, not conviction?

Soooo, 3 years after the offence, they're clear?

I'm asking because I got given my 5 points almost a year after getting caught, and if thats the case then they should be cleared this year! :lol:

Normally a FP speeding offence, the date of conviction is the date of offence.

It's normally cases that go to court that have different dates and it's the date of conviction that counts.

 

Yes! was late and brain was lubricated with a rather nice Zinfandel!

even so we are still talking seconds to pass a 56mph HGV in a vehicle doing 70mph.

I just happened to have the m/sec and length of HGV combo to hand from something else been working on! That was where we needed to clear the HGV within a specific time frame, I posted the wrong bits! ;-))

 

I can understand why you did it but personally i wouldn't take the risk. That road needs to be a Dual Carrigeway all the way.