[Stuballs]

pulling away from standstll yesterday (with a little bit of welly) and when I tried to change to second it wasn't there. None of the other gears were. And the gear stick movement was being restricted somehow. So I limped the rest of the way across London Bridge and pulled over (burning oil smell in the cabin)

Upon inspection it seems there's a hole in the bottom of the gearbox and all the gearbox oil had come out. I'm assuming the gearbox has destroyed itself and fired out through the casing. Is this 'normal'? And more importantly - how much is this going to cost to fix?

Cheers

 

[ThumpJunkie]

Depends whether or not you have the skill/equipment to fit a new gearbox yourself mate... I recently had mine replaced which cost about £300 all-in, but I had quotes ranging from £100 to £1200 for the box alone... :err:

 

[18780]

gearbox can be an easy job to do, depends how you go about it. more than likely a garage will take the entire engine out to do it.
i myself have found it easy to just jack the engine up and let the gearbox slide out between the roll bar and tie bar.
get the box from a scrappy mate, or from ebay. make sure it has plenty of oil in cause they often get neglected.
how competant are you with the tools mate?

 

[lates]

Easy enough to do. Leave the engine in situ and with an average tool kit should not take more than a day. Couples of hours when you have done a few.

 

[18780]

Easy enough to do. Leave the engine in situ and with an average tool kit should not take more than a day. Couples of hours when you have done a few.

you go down the loosen suspension root, yank out drive shafts etc?

 

[lates]

Yes mate, lower arms,drop links etc.

 

[18780]

in that case all he will need is a few spanners/allan keys, a fork chizel splitter thing and thats it.
however it is easy to round off and bodge the mounting bolts etc if not supported correctly.

 

[Stuballs]

Thanks for the replies. Forgot to mention it's a 214 bubble if that makes any difference. I'm fairly competent with a set of tools. Most of my experience is with bikes (motorbikes) but I reckon I could do this.

Would it be worth replacing the clutch when I do this? I think that's been on the way out too and it probably need doing. The cars only done 45,00 miles but the gearbox and clutch hasn't been right since I bought the car a few months ago.

Any particular barriers I might encounter? loosening the suspension and removing the drive shaft sounds a bit messy.

Cheers

 

[18780]

Thanks for the replies. Forgot to mention it's a 214 bubble if that makes any difference. I'm fairly competent with a set of tools. Most of my experience is with bikes (motorbikes) but I reckon I could do this.

Would it be worth replacing the clutch when I do this? I think that's been on the way out too and it probably need doing. The cars only done 45,00 miles but the gearbox and clutch hasn't been right since I bought the car a few months ago.

Any particular barriers I might encounter? loosening the suspension and removing the drive shaft sounds a bit messy.

Cheers

mostly straight forward mate. i doubt youll find out method in a haynes manuel etc. so well explain it to ya if you wish. you may aswell change the clutch as well, takes 2 seconds when the box is out.
just make sure you get a good gearbox to go in.
btw the drive shafts just pull out and push back in. no prob.

 

[Stuballs]

Brilliant looks like I'll do it myself then. I'll get a gearbox and new clutch and post again when I'm fitting it. Might have to take you up on that offer on instructions if I get stuck.

I'm a little worried about buying a used gearbox that'll die as soon as I put it in. How much does a new gearbox cost?

Cheers

 

[18780]

more than you want to know!!!!

 

[Stuballs]

How about this or this or this?

 

[griffmonster]

you need an r65 box any good scrapper worth his salt will sort you out,
And price circa £80 and £60 for the clutch.

 

[mario1979 (Vinny)]

the second link you provided with pg1 box for 100 sounds promising, good box and good price, low mileage too! good luck

 

[griffmonster]

But thats what is fitted to 1.8l its a pg1 but maybe it will fit after all?

 

[18780]

doest have the diff fitted on the seond one though, not sure how much of a job it is.

 

[Stuballs]

pardon my ignorance but what's a diff?

 

[Stuballs]

never mind

 

[18780]

never mind

some people do get thrown of with our abreviations, e.g. alt, block, diff, lump etc.

 

[ThumpJunkie]

How about this or this or this?

2nd one won't fit, but first and third ones should.

Also, try and get a 1.4 box, apparently the ratios are different on 1.6 boxes, not sure if there's any truth in this?