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#1 ·
Ok, so I have neglected the TF a little recently and hadnt noticed one of the fron brake pads was very low. it is now metal on metal (although still stops very well)

The car is a TF 135 with 15 or 16" wheels. not quite sure at the moment.

As the front disks are going to need replacing, what options do I have.
I dont want to spend too much on them if I can help it.



Also, why has only the drivers side pad worn down to the metal and the passanger still has at least 5mm? there is a slight pull to the left under braking.
 
#5 ·
Funnily enough, at the remap group buy Matt absolutely *slated* EBC (Im currently running greenstuff too, BTW) saying that at a group test they were invited to, they were pretty cack and in some cases - below OEM.

On the rally cars, he uses OEM discs(!) and Mintex / Other manu (cant remember the name) race-spec pads.

Now, I have a habit of not believing everything Im told.... but its made me at least remove my blind alliance to EBC and give Mintex pads a try next time round. (alongside existing 304mm OEM discs)
 
#4 ·
the reason pads have uneven wear could be down to a few things...when it did this to me it was a bearing issue...checking that is a good starting point...

And as asked,do you have ap brakes or standard?

This isnt a big job at all if your fairly comfortable with the tools needed

Copper slip grease is a gimme when refitting pads and also a good wire brushing around hub also helpful when refitting discs

Id say standard gear done yourself is about ÂŁ100 for all corners but if done at a garage depends if they see you coming or not unfortunately....:err:
 
#6 · (Edited)
That is funny, because a week after I changed from OEM I believe I would have hit a ***** in a merc on the slip road northbound M1/J41 had I been on OEM, but you can only speak from experience.

I don't have a *blind* allegience to anything other than people close to me but until I have reason to doubt the pads I have I'll stick with what I know and trust.

I guess you have had bad experiences with the EBC pads?
 
#8 ·
I have Greenstuff on at the moment (been fitted for 10K) and am very disappointed in them (may have been me making that comment that instigated the conversion with Matt :lol: ).

Now I have regular use on another TF160 fitted with OEM brakes, and can drive the 2 cars back to back, it highlights just how bad the Greenstuff are.
Currently weighing up the options, but a set of Mintex are looking favourite.
 
#9 ·
Steve, I've just put a set of bog standard Mintex in the fronts, and BS Mintex rears, the braking is no worse or better (maybe slightly better :dunno:) than the GS fronts I had in.....but at least the bloody squealing has stopped !!!
 
#13 ·
Silly me, and here I am with several years of experience working at a company dealing with high end / racing brake components behind me and, oh wait, no, that's you.

You must be itching to come out with that statement *yet* again, mustn't you? :lol:

Silly me again, here I am with twenty years driving experience behind me with absolutely no need for track day pads having gone from OEM pads to ECB and driving them ******* hard and seeing a real difference, so *must* be wrong.

I spent a long time on the forum ascertaining which were the most used and which were most highly regarded and ECB green came up time and time again.

Funny, because I seem to remember a forum member above running them for four years and being very happy with them too.

People can buy what they ******* want, and if people want a recommendation I'll give it.
 
#24 ·
Silly me, and here I am with several years of experience working at a company dealing with high end / racing brake components behind me and, oh wait, no, that's you.

You must be itching to come out with that statement *yet* again, mustn't you? :lol:

Silly me again, here I am with twenty years driving experience behind me with absolutely no need for track day pads having gone from OEM pads to ECB and driving them ******* hard and seeing a real difference, so *must* be wrong.

I spent a long time on the forum ascertaining which were the most used and which were most highly regarded and ECB green came up time and time again.

Funny, because I seem to remember a forum member above running them for four years and being very happy with them too.

People can buy what they ******* want, and if people want a recommendation I'll give it.
Wow, what a horrible post. Do you get off on belittling other people? I feel sure you would not have said that to my face, you cowardly moon faced *****. If you wonder why people are leaving this forum in droves you need look no further than yourself making smug comments on anything and everything. You remind me of a bully who has such a low self esteem he must take it out on everyone else.

Have you ever heard the phrase sarcasm is the lowest form of wit??

This is my final word on the subject and infact the final word i will post on this forum.
 
#25 ·
well not quitwe the response i was hoping for (apart from a few posts, thankyou to those people)

no I dont have AP racing disks.

How critical is it that I measure runout with a dial after fitting?
 
#27 ·
Not very, You can use any pointed object against the face of the disk as long as you can hold it steady.
As you have standard sliding calipers, as others have said, clean all the faces on the edges of the caliper where the new pads seat, with a file if necessary to make them clean and flat and use a little copper grease there. Check the caliper slides free on the carrier pins, always worth popping them apart and greasing them too.
Uneaven pad wear on sliding calipers is usually down to a stuck pad.
 
#31 ·
I have just changed all 4 corners on my car, all standard types with Mintex at the front and EBC at the back, broke them in gently over about 100 miles and they feel great now (mind you the old ones were completetly shot).
 
#33 ·
no track days, some occasional "spirrited" driving on B roads

to be honest, the OEM ones were pretty good but I would just like a little more bite!

I dont think its worth the extra insurance premium for fitting grooved disks. maybe go for some slightly better pads and rub the name off the back? :D

people are recomending mintex. which pad in particular? an OEM spec or a better one?
 
#36 ·
Aye. What Peter said. If they are OEM spec then it doesn't need declaring on the insurance either. Grooved disks look pretty but that's it. They are supposed to help clear the layer of gas that can build up if you are racing on the track, but if you are cooking pads like that you need a higher rated set, and if you do it on the road then someone is going to get hurt, or you need to slow the he'll down :)