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Just got an mgf and shock horror ... oil in the coolant vessel. BUT I think the HG is okay, I had them blow on other cars and there is no noise, water from the exhaust or vapour, loss of power, coolant and the dipstick had a tiny bit of mao but that could be condensation and wiped away not to return.

I am persuading myself here.

I would like to get the oil out of the coolant and not too familiar with the mg yet to take it on. I have read the strings and maybe if cheap enough its better while also getting a pressure test.
 

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Unless it's remains working it's way up from a previous HGF, how can oil get in the water without the HG failing? :confused:

And yeah when replacing coolant pay particular attention to bleeding it, not the easiest of jobs without a vaccum filler apparently. :)
 

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Better still have the coolant sniff and pressure tested, as Loaky says unless it's residue then oil in the coolant can only come from one place.
 

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But I did read that it could be from an earlier blown head. If theres nothing in the oil and no signs otherwise Im hoping Im luky. Any idea of cost for a flush?
 

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Not sure on it's own but try and find somewhere that can vacuum fill the system as it's safer and you will pay less labour as the manual way with bleed nipples can be time consuming if done properly.
 

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Just got an mgf and shock horror ... oil in the coolant vessel. BUT I think the HG is okay, I had them blow on other cars and there is no noise, water from the exhaust or vapour, loss of power, coolant and the dipstick had a tiny bit of mao but that could be condensation and wiped away not to return.

I am persuading myself here.

I would like to get the oil out of the coolant and not too familiar with the mg yet to take it on. I have read the strings and maybe if cheap enough its better while also getting a pressure test.
Similar circumstances to me, I did have a theory that the previous owner might have topped up the oil and made a mistake where to put it! or the car has had a previous HGF (and not in its history file) and there is residue left.

I flushed the system and put in new coolant when I replaced the underfloor heater pipes and radiator but its still there - not sure how much flushing is needed to clean the system properly.

In the end I decided to stop ignoring the obvious and admit HGF! I will be changing it very soon.
 

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Im just looking at the lack of evidence. I am going to see about the sniffing test what ever that is and cross fingers.
What riles me is the previouse guy must have known it was a problem and still sold it. I know there are toe rags out there but what goes around comes around....hopefully
I know its my fault to have missed it and may have to pay up
Have you got any prices yet?
 

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Yes got most of the bits on order.
I am going with the Landrover gasket at £24 (picking that up tomorrow)
and waiting on a delivery of other parts including
inlet and exhaust gaskets - not expensive, cannot remember exactly but around £5
New water pump £25 - just as well to replace while I am there
Cam belts recently done so going back on.
Going to fit new head bolts - waiting on a price through a trade contact.

When everything arrives I will pick a clear weekend and get stuck in, hopefully by the end of the weekend after some cursing and swearing, I should have a new gasket on!

I will check the head when its off for straightness, but planning not to skim it unless necessary as the engine is running fine with no overheating.
 

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Quick update , I am booked in for a flush and pressure test tomorrow and spoke to two garages. Told them the symptoms and both said it could be dirty coolant from an old repair.
I have everything crossed that is physically possible and then some.
 

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Quick update , I am booked in for a flush and pressure test tomorrow and spoke to two garages. Told them the symptoms and both said it could be dirty coolant from an old repair.
I have everything crossed that is physically possible and then some.
Hope it all goes well - Keep us informed i'm sure many of us are intrested to know
 

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well what a trip to the garage that was. Spoke to the service manager and he said it didnt look like hgf but would pressue test. I went off to work happy....till I got a call. HGF is the least of your worries mate, you had better come down. Seemingly my new purchase had a bump on the front and rear drivers side!! I had this HPI checked no recorded accidents. There was pulling to the left but I thought tracking. Door seams fine no creases but because cant get under the car in the street couldnt look any further.
Now what? private sale I have little rights, it is an offence to sell a car unroadworthy but police rarely take private sales further and the seller..get this doesnt have to say its damaged but it is illegal to sell!! If he does sell then you have to prove he knew there was a problem.
I cant sue as a private sale. So I have to look at checking the standard of repair and if its so bad the creases are left, then what about other points. Did the airbag go off and they just cut it off and put the steering cover back on??? Its gonna be a long week till I get it to a spacialist and get the feed back.
So all beware or private sales no matter what you have signed , receipt, hpi etc you still have nothing.
I will keep this up to date as it developes if the forum is interested.
If anyone knows the points to check I would be grateful.
Daft thing is driving back from the garage I still enjoyed driving it.!! Fumes maybe.
 

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Thats bad news.
An HPI report will only show up an accident when the Insurance company write the car off as un-economic to repair. If they repair the car, its not recorded or if a previous owner had an accident and did not make an insurance claim (3rd party for instance) again it would not show on HPI.

Have the garage found evidence of poor accident repair or has the repair been done to a good standard? seems to me they have gone looking for accident damage rather than doing the work you asked!
 

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The damage was pointed out and it doesnt seem so bad to the untrained eye..me except the conversation was more ge your money back than anything else. The lads were good and helpful. It may be blown up a bit dont know so Im getting opinions and costs.
There is damage near a suspension strut that does look alarming and loads of overspray.
Didnt get the pressure test as mine was already throgh the roof :)
 

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I had a coolant flush, refil, Mike Satur Stainless Coolant pipes and a new drive shaft gaiter for 100 GBP plus vat. That was the labour - I supplied all the parts and materials myself.

I figure the coolant flish and refil would take about 30 to 60 mins so should cost between 20 and 40 quid for a 40 quid hourly rate.

Hope this helps...
 

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Its hard to remember you just wanted a swim when your up to your neck in crockodiles

Went to another garage today, 4 of them looking at the repair and jotting notes on a clipboard. I just want to know if its a solid safe repair and how much to get the pulling to the left sorted. I left with needing the welding done first, then suspension gassed then we can do a geo allignment. But if you intend to get new tyres then do that first. Then I noticed on the report new brake disks and pads on the rear and rear silencer.Did I get an answer if the repair ws solid ...no.
Just vigorously advised to report the mot station.
Why are there no clubs in the North East where you can get an unbiased, not out to dramatise comment. Or is there?
 

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Its always very easy to criticise another garage/persons work but its possible no one will want to fully commit themselves - if they state all is OK and something goes wrong and you have an accident, they might be held liable.

Hope you find somewhere that will be more helpfull though.
 
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