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I think my current battery is dying or dead? I will see if I can call out the breakdown guys to advise, as the car's not starting.
I've trickle charged the battery twice in 4 days and neither charging has helped me in starting the car.
I don't use my car a lot and that's probably why the battery has died? or is it the alternator? I'm no mechanic !
If my current battery which is a Bosch has in fact died I definitely think I need a heavy duty battery, especially because the car is driven very occasionally.
Please advise what kind of battery I might require, given it's rare usage?
Thanks in advance.
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I think my current battery is dying or dead? I will see if I can call out the breakdown guys to advise, as the car's not starting.
I've trickle charged the battery twice in 4 days and neither charging has helped me in starting the car.
I don't use my car a lot and that's probably why the battery has died? or is it the alternator? I'm no mechanic !
If my current battery which is a Bosch has in fact died I definitely think I need a heavy duty battery, especially because the car is driven very occasionally.
Please advise what kind of battery I might require, given it's rare usage?
Thanks in advance.
Martin.
Hi Martin
If you have a good motor store near you I would get them to cross check what battery you need I was surprised to find that my battery box on my rover 75 1.8 was quite large and the battery two thirds filled it when I rang about a replacement the company sold me a larger battery and said a lot of car makers fit a smaller battery to save on costs . If your alternator is failing the battery light with stay on on the dashboard it should go out on its own without reving it hard . The battery should last ok . You could have a small drain on your system that’s making the battery flat . You can test this if you have a multimeter
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Hi Rogrover,

Thanks for your advice. I will call out the breakdown guys as the car won't start and they should be able to advise me, surely? I did speak to a mechanic this evening who might have a multimeter. Lets hope he comes along tomorrow.
Thank again.
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I think my current battery is dying or dead? I will see if I can call out the breakdown guys to advise, as the car's not starting.
I've trickle charged the battery twice in 4 days and neither charging has helped me in starting the car.
I don't use my car a lot and that's probably why the battery has died? or is it the alternator? I'm no mechanic !
If my current battery which is a Bosch has in fact died I definitely think I need a heavy duty battery, especially because the car is driven very occasionally.
Please advise what kind of battery I might require, given it's rare usage?
Thanks in advance.
Martin.
You should be able to pick up a good battery with a 4 year guarantee on the interweb for about fifty pounds delivered next day I have had three over the passed few years one in the gold tourer, one in the wife’s saloon and one for the Spice tourer last year. The oldest is now seven years old and still going strong it cost just under £40 delivered next day in 2013.


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You should be able to pick up a good battery with a 4 year guarantee on the interweb for about fifty pounds delivered next day I have had three over the passed few years one in the gold tourer, one in the wife’s saloon and one for the Spice tourer last year. The oldest is now seven years old and still going strong it cost just under £40 delivered next day in 2013.


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Thanks for that Alanaaslan.
 

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I am writing to advise what occurred today with the car. I called the breakdown people, after I had spoken to my mechanic friend. My friend checked the battery condition with his meter but said he couldn't assess the alternator as the car wasn't running. He felt the starter motor was at fault.

The breakdown service attended and he diagnosed ( after tapping the starter motor , several times but to no avail) that there was an electrical fault; he claimed there was no feed to the starter motor. He tried to jump start the car but again to no avail; the car wouldn't start.

The breakdown service agreed that if I could get the car out of my garage, they would re attend and take the car to a garage of my choice.My 75 is an automatic.
Now I have the hard part; to get the car out of my garage.:unsure::rolleyes:
 

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Sorry, the post relates to my previous post of yesterday, headed " A suitable enough Car battery for Rover 75 ( Y reg connoisseur V6 auto"
A suitable enough Car Battery for Rover 75( y reg connoisseur v6 auto).
 

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Very surprised the breakdown man would not pull the car out of the garage. Just stick it in N and it can be pushed or pulled to be loaded on a flatbed.
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Yep I couldn't believe their attitude; I wasn't at all pleased I can tell you. Oh and they said I could not call them back for the same issue.
Anyway, I rang back about an hour ago and they relented and agreed to re attend if I can get the car out; its a tight space and getting the car out of my garage is not easy. My garage is at the back of the property and the alleyway is tight.
 

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Bring back the good old days when the RAC man with his motor bike and side car always gave you a wave. Not only that he would have gone off and got a new starter motor and fitted it for you.
Sadly now all they seem to want to do is take you to the nearest garage. Surely an at home service should mean recovery from at home.
Just a silly thought the gear selector is in P or N as the car won’t start unless it is.
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Things ain't what they used to be anymore, Alan, sadly.
Yep the cars in park mode as it always is when I park it in my garage.
Not saying it will start in the morning, but you never know, after the several taps that the man gave the starter motor today. And maybe pigs might fly?
 

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Ok then. This is directed at everyone who took the time and trouble to reply.
Following on from my initial subject title, this is what transpired. So at the moment I do not require a replacement battery.
The car wouldn't start so the breakdown service took the car to a garage of my choice. A while later, they phoned to ask me for the key ; I said but I gave it to you and they said this key won't start the car because the circuit board? within the key's missing. So I said but the key opens and closes the car doors etc. They said but without the "inside" the car won't start. Luckily I found my spare and took it there; the car started immediately. I was so embarrassed.
Now the story about the key that wouldn't start the car; I bought a key fob with the 2 buttons and this came with an uncut barrel so a friend of mine took the "circuit board"? out of the original car key and put it into the key fob, leaving one of the original keys as a dummy. The key fob operates the alarm/central locking but the barrel's uncut.
I hope I haven't confused anyone!
I think I need to get the uncut barrel , cut.
Does anyone know, please, where I can get the key cut so that the key fob also goes into the ignition and starts the car?:unsure:
I went to Timpsons and they quoted me £60 :eek:; I don't believe that to be a competitive enough price.
 

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There are two things within your key which you need to transfer from old to new key housing: Printed Circuit Board together with battery which has buttons on it and can open and close your car as well as set and disable yoir alarm; Transponder is small piece of equipment within your key which disables engine immobilizer and provides you with possibility to start the engine.

In below picture you can see Printed Circuit Board togather with battery which is green and circled in red you see transponder.

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I understand from your description that you failed to transfer transponder to your new key case.

However, from your description I cannot understand if you now have two fully working keys with key cut, transponder and circuit board?
 

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There are two things within your key which you need to transfer from old to new key housing: Printed Circuit Board together with battery which has buttons on it and can open and close your car as well as set and disable yoir alarm; Transponder is small piece of equipment within your key which disables engine immobilizer and provides you with possibility to start the engine.
Yes, my friend (upon my plea for help) transferred the pcb and transponder into the key fob that I bought via the internet. The barrel/stem of the key is uncut so it won't go into the ignition. The key fob with the pcb and transponder allows me to set/switch off the alarm but as said won't start the car.

In below picture you can see Printed Circuit Board togather with battery which is green and circled in red you see transponder.

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I understand from your description that you failed to transfer transponder to your new key case.
please see above

However, from your description I cannot understand if you now have two fully working keys with key cut, transponder and circuit board?

1. Ok I have one key ( spare key/ main key) that will start the car and that's what the garage requested from me.
2. I have the other/spare key/ main key that will only allow me to open and close ( manually); it wont allow me to start the car because the pcb/ transponder has been transferred to the key fob that I bought from the net.
3. So the key fob which allows me to set/switch off the alarm does just that; it does not go into the ignition because the key stem/ barrel is uncut. This is what I should like to have cut; where? I will have to look around.
 
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