done some searching and looks like the fuel pump. anyone want to loan me £200?

 

Check the belts first.

 

have done mate, belts are ok, timing is fine

im almost thinking its not worth fixing financially. i mean, if a 2nd hand pump is £200 (ebay) with no garantee it wont just happen again......

 

Well don't buy it off ebay then they know what they're worth.

Scrappers is where the deals are! I've never bought one but i've enquired a few times and it's always been cheaper than £200. By a decent amount.

 

are there any guides on changing the pump? i dont want to mess it up

 

Have you loosened any of the injectors, and tried cranking the car over?

If it spurts like a fountain, then i think the pump is fine, if it dribbles, then the pump is a likely culprit.

Cheers
Dave

 

i havent. but is there anything else it could be?

 

Blocked fuel filter/fuel lines maybe??

Cheers
Dave

 

You have too much bad luck, if its the pump get one from scrappy...

 

the fuel filter is brand new genuine part from rimmer bros.... lines seem ok tbh...if i pump the primer it goes hard then when i crank it over it goes soft as it would if everything was ok

 

Why would it go soft? its on the inlet side of the fuel filter so if the filter was blocked it would not cause the the primer bulb to collapse. I would first check you are getting fuel to the pump, then the wiring to the pump, both are much easier and cheaper to do than changing the pump.

You can check fuel is getting to the injectors as suggested above, but if it was I would expect it to fire.

 

it suggests to me that the pump cant create high enough pressure to open the injectors, so the fuel is just getting put back via the return lines which would relieve the pressure.

visually i cant see any problems with wiring

 

ive just seen E_T_V's guide on the solenoid. is this the part that normally fails?

 

Have you cracked the unions to see if you are getting any pressure/fuel yet?

And when you try to start it, does it turn over but not fire at all, or does it fire one or two cylinders but not catch properly sort of thing?

 

yes bud ive cracked the unions and fuel does gush out. no idea at what pressure though. it turns over but wont fire

 

get some easy start (be gentle) and see if it runs via the airbox on that . if it does you know you have a fuel delivery issue . also check the turbo . we had a vw in that refused to run due to a blown turbo . good luck !

 

also try pumping th eprimer while some cranks it . its not unknown for them primers to leak back , although id expect a hard start situation not a cut out

 

id does run, rough as assholes, on ether but as soon as i stop spraying it cuts out.

 

So pumping the primer gets it to run, but rough too?

Next thing i'd try is trying to run it with the fuel in and fuel return hoses running straight from a can of diesel (be very careful that the can and diesel are clean as there is no filtering except the banjo bolt if you do this).

That will completely rule out fuel blockages.

 

i meant on ether....it runs on ether but as soon as you stop spraying it cuts out. fuel comes out when i crack the injectors and crank it so that rules out a fuel blockage

 

Ah, i misread that as either.

Does sound like timing. Its odd that it went suddenly, they tend to go slowly, with tractoring and difficulty starting happening first.

That or the pump not generating enough pressure for the injectors to fire.

 

Personally I'd be thinking perhaps failed fuel quantity solenoid on the pump.

If it fails in either position the car will cut out.

 

so it highly technical mechanical language, does this mean the pump is ****ered?

 

in the time ive owned it, teh little beastie has always started first time and just sounded like.... a diesel.... i dont really know the difference between one that is tractoring and one that isnt

 

Yes its beggered.

 

microfilter in the banjo of the feed pipe...

mine was shatted up... did exactly the same as this!!!

 

I have just had this experience myself, my wife was in tesco car park and it just stopped. Despite all the optimism I had that it may not be the pump, the pump ecu was dead. You get fuel at the injectors if you slacken the pipes but this is false hope, there is plenty of flow but no pressure. I opted for a repaired pump and £200 was not enough!

I won't be going down the pub for a week or two.

I got two fault codes: words to the effect of "communication error with pump ecu" and "fuel quantity solenoid malfunction"