There is 25 ps difference or 18.5% more power!!! lol!!!!!!!!chopsy said:
You are talking new???
135 or 160 That is the question ?
Hi Guys,
I am thinking of chopping in my Jaguar X-Type and getting a MG-TF. I have test driven the 160 and thought it was fantastic. I no longer need to have 4 seats as we have a Land Rover Freelander for the wife and kids.
The question is, is there a lot of difference between the 135 and 160 and what would you "experienced" owners recommend ?
I am thinking of chopping in my Jaguar X-Type and getting a MG-TF. I have test driven the 160 and thought it was fantastic. I no longer need to have 4 seats as we have a Land Rover Freelander for the wife and kids.
The question is, is there a lot of difference between the 135 and 160 and what would you "experienced" owners recommend ?
1 - 13 of 13 Posts
You are talking new???
To be honest the 135 is more that adequate for normal driving and even has a little more grunt low down. However, the 160 does produce more power at higher revs. The main difference is in the specification. The 160 comes with more toys and in particular much better brakes. If you had to add up the difference between the two models and then cost it then you'd be better off with the 160. After having said that it's up to you - everyone places different values on different things.
What sort of driving do you want to be doing?
The TF160 with its 1.8Litre VVC engine finds the fun side of power above 4000 rpm. But saying that, its no slouch at low revs either, and of course the growl of the engine, 2ft from your head is so nice
I can not really comment on the standard 1.8 - 135PS engined varient, as I ony drove the 135 breifly, I had already made my mind up. 160 and nothing else.
Thanks Stafainn, I forgot all about all the other bits, like the (now reduced to 2pot) 4 pot AP brakes, 16inch wheels, leather / alcantara, and of course, the little badge on the back reminding you that its a TF160
The TF160 with its 1.8Litre VVC engine finds the fun side of power above 4000 rpm. But saying that, its no slouch at low revs either, and of course the growl of the engine, 2ft from your head is so nice
I can not really comment on the standard 1.8 - 135PS engined varient, as I ony drove the 135 breifly, I had already made my mind up. 160 and nothing else.
Thanks Stafainn, I forgot all about all the other bits, like the (now reduced to 2pot) 4 pot AP brakes, 16inch wheels, leather / alcantara, and of course, the little badge on the back reminding you that its a TF160
Stafainn said:To be honest the 135 is more that adequate for normal driving and even has a little more grunt low down. However, the 160 does produce more power at higher revs. The main difference is in the specification. The 160 comes with more toys and in particular much better brakes. If you had to add up the difference between the two models and then cost it then you'd be better off with the 160. After having said that it's up to you - everyone places different values on different things.
...or you can do what we did.... and buy a 135 special edition, with all the 160 goodys (plus a bit, like chrome pack)
Totally agree!!!!!![email protected] said:...or you can do what we did.... and buy a 135 special edition, with all the 160 goodys (plus a bit, like chrome pack)
Won't be buying new unfortunately, my Jag is a 2.5V6 petrol and whereas it only has 33K miles on it, it has depreciated to around £10K !! I think the engine noise from the 160 was great, most of my driving Monday to Friday will be on Motorway ( probably stuck on M4 ) I think that I have made up my mind that it will be the 160, however need someone to take my Jag away before I can buy one.
I had the same question last year. So I drived the 135 and the 160. Then I bought the 160. If not, buy the 135 but do add the goodys as 16" alloys, bright pack and THE BRAKES (this was what I most disliked from the 135). If you are buying a 2nd hand one (as I did, with only 8k miles and a four year warranty), go for the 160. It won't be much more expensive if you have to buy the extras for the 135.
Regards
Regards
chopsey... you could try and find a 135 SE second hand, (I think there is very little difference in SE to standard pricing in the S/H market).
...my advice look for Sprints / Sparks / Sunstorms / Cool Blue's
...my advice look for Sprints / Sparks / Sunstorms / Cool Blue's
Thanks Guys, do you think that the 160 will be OK on the motorway ? 38mpg sounds good, however if it is going to be a bit bumpy !!!
i had this dilema, i test drove the 135 and to be honest it was more than adequate and was lovely to drive i then test drove the 160 and i was smitten so now have the 160 on my drive, as im a more enthusiastic driver i got a great deal on the 160 2004 with litterally all the extras, ive got the garish grenadine and i just love the car to bits!!! ive got warranty till 07 so im more than happy!!!!
if uve got the money go for a 160 what id do to have a 160 i gotta 135 and want more speed!! lol
The 135 is adequately nippy and for day to day road use, is as quick as you'd need, but if your likey to get involved with tuning at some point, then it makes more sense to start with the 160, as its had alot of factory fitted improvements to the breathing, that can be taken advantage of with bolt on tuning parts. Im now tuning my 135, with the hope of getting to 160-165bhp which is as much as i think i want/can afford to do to mine. I just know if i had got the 160 instead that i would have wanted to tune that as well, not because i need more power, but if its possible to achieve and relatively easy to do then people will always want more!
The TF135 can go to 150bhp aprrox without taking the head off, but swap the head and possibly cams for 165-170bhp and its starting to get really expensive!
The TF160 will be able to make up to 175-180bhp with bolt ons and chipping, so its ultimately capable of bigger gains for less money, which means its the better engine to tune IMO. Have a 135 or piper 270 exhaust cam and a flowed head on the VVC and its going to be around 190bhp, and you still have the option then of going over to ITB's and using an Emerald ECU for a real 200bhp!
The TF135 can go to 150bhp aprrox without taking the head off, but swap the head and possibly cams for 165-170bhp and its starting to get really expensive!
The TF160 will be able to make up to 175-180bhp with bolt ons and chipping, so its ultimately capable of bigger gains for less money, which means its the better engine to tune IMO. Have a 135 or piper 270 exhaust cam and a flowed head on the VVC and its going to be around 190bhp, and you still have the option then of going over to ITB's and using an Emerald ECU for a real 200bhp!
1 - 13 of 13 Posts
- This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
MG-Rover.org Forums
A forum community dedicated to MG & Rover owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, troubleshooting, upgrades, maintenance, and more!
Full Forum Listing
