whatever turbo you try and stick on your 1.4 your engine will eventually go bang, the 1.4 k series isnt made to take the strain.
pretty pointless turboing the 1.4 anyway.

if your gonna do it then do it proper, get a 2.0 turbo.

 

thats the problem tho m8. my finance company doesnt sound to happy about me sticking in another engine. so i think the only alternative is to get as much as possible out of a 1.4 fully agree with your way of thinking though, i would love to put in a bigger engine.

but if not then i gota stick with the 1.4 and id be happy if i could squeeze out 145-150bhp out of it

 

thats the problem tho m8. my finance company doesnt sound to happy about me sticking in another engine. so i think the only alternative is to get as much as possible out of a 1.4 fully agree with your way of thinking though, i would love to put in a bigger engine.

but if not then i gota stick with the 1.4 and id be happy if i could squeeze out 145-150bhp out of it

change the car altogether that will solve your problem? no different engine change, all you gotta do is turbo it!

 

i would if i could m8. but its finance and i part X'd my previous car for this one and obviously got negative equity, so im stuck with it

 

No, there was never a production 1.4 turbo K series engine.

140-150bhp from a 1.4 is going to cost you thousands to do. Far more than you would lose in negative equity to buy a 160bhp VVC ZR.

 

not taking the **** but why did you purchace a 105 on finance if you wanted a quick car?? surley the best way to do it would be to get a 160 in the first place

and to answer your question stick a t-series in there change the turbo inlet to one that says injection dont get a dumpvalve and hope for the best..

 

cos im an idiot R200vi always been the same, jump strait in without thinking. my finance company have so many rules its ridiculous, not allowed to be over insurance group 12, less than 60k, younger than 6 years old. and some others.

and tbh when purchasin my car i didnt realise how limited it was to modification. i suppose i could always do what my friends do and just risk it, they drop a 2.0 turbo in car and dont tell a single soul. my friend has a corsa van which i think was a 1.5 diesel but dropped a 2.0 turbo in it and done other mods and now races supras but insurance and finance still think its a 1.5 diesel

 

cos im an idiot R200vi always been the same, jump strait in without thinking. my finance company have so many rules its ridiculous, not allowed to be over insurance group 12, less than 60k, younger than 6 years old. and some others.

shoulda got a 120. Group 10 IIRC and not too far off the pace of the 160. The 160 TBH is a joke at group 17 :sad2:

To answer your question, you can turbo the 1.4, and it will go like **** off a shovel. Like every other K series....you'll still have the dreaded HGF looming and turbo'ing it will cost thousands then cost you more on insurance anyway.

It was done on here, looked the dogs. The company who did it eventually went bust and any mention of their name on here caused havoc for a while.

 

have you thought of trying other insurance companies the one your with sounds like its run by a mini hitler lol

 

how much was it for? theres ways round these problems

all these 0% on balance transfers.....pay it off m8

move onto a 160 dude

 

ok ill answer all posts

1. (bluntyn) its my finance company what are the problem, my insurance company are the dogs

2. (rovman) i payed £5.000 for the car but ill be paying back nearly double that on my finance exspecially as i have negative equity. because iv only been passed about 19months and in that time iv had 3 cars in total each on finance. first was a 04 clio, traded that in for a focus, then traded that in for my mg which iv had now for about 4weeks. so with the top up loans they do for ya to pay off previous cars im screwed my own fault i know but i dont stand a cat in hells chance of trading in again or finding about 8k to pay it off

3. (marsh) i wanted the 120 in the first place m8, as i knew i didnt stand a chance of getting a 1.8. was looking for over 2 months for a 120 and the showrooms in my area either had none at all or had some which was pre facelift (which i dont like) or a horrible colour like jaguar racin green :S and i know people say "why bother spendin thousands on a turbo or modding your 1.4" well if i have no other choice then thats what i want to do but i just wish i could turbo it without worrying everytime i get in the car if my engine gonna go POP!, id pay for it if i knew it would last so many thousand miles or so many years etc etc but how people make it sound, it sounds like my engine will kill itself in a week.

4. (R200vi) yeh m8 its hilarious. id link you to the website with a picture of the corsa van but i respect rules on forums and not allowed to link to other forums etc etc... but yeh the shop which sponsors it spent thousands and thousands on it, full wide arch kit and a custom spray job, a 2.0 turbo fully weight reduced. anything you can think of in a racing car, it had lol also had nos in it at one point but the guy who bought it rapped it around a bollard and they spent quite a bit on repairs so took the nos out,lol not sure what bhp and 0-60 times where. all i know is people with supra turbos couldnt pull away from it, the owner never took over them on purpose. just stayed up there back end to slowly but surely annoy the pants off them my god that corsa was quick

 

4. (R200vi) yeh m8 its hilarious. id link you to the website with a picture of the corsa van but i respect rules on forums and not allowed to link to other forums etc etc...

No problem in that context.

Link away

 

right am with you fella and i do agree group 17 for a zr 160 is a bit steep 15 maybe id agree.

 

the link to the shop which owns the corsa and mods it is

www.performance-direct.co.uk

and this link is to the corsa

http://www.performance-direct.co.uk...direct.co.uk/forums/album_cat.php?cat_id=5&sid=5edd67da1f44ea01a38a3d6d3c935ce5

all the fancy stuff in the boot just there for shows/pics. not there in everyday life

 

Also, for your friend that has a corsa van. I hope he crashes and dies.QUOTE

No need for that.

 

Also, for your friend that has a corsa van. I hope he crashes and dies.QUOTE

No need for that.

You wouldn't be saying that if the corsa boy hit you. "Sorry mate, my insurance is invalid because I'm a **** that doesn't declare the modifications to my car".

Now I remeber why I hardly post in here after 4 or 5 years of visiting the forum - Nice.

I have no tolerance for people that take such risks. If they were only risking their own stuff (NCB etc) it wouldn't be that much of an issue. But what happens if this guy ploughs into the side of a elderly lady driving her car and does some serious damage? Nothing. He loses his car while the old lady has to pay for it. It's sick.

that was a little on the harsh side i guess. the person who owns it isnt an 18 year old boy racer who hammers it everywere. He is the shops owner and quite responsable, just likes taking tuning/modding to the extreme and races people at shows.

So he doesn't drive it on the road? If he does he is breaking the law. You should report him instead of trying to copy him!

i so dont know what to do now shall i stick with the 1.4 and accept its slowness or should i change the engine and risk it

For me that's a simple question. I wouldn't break the law in such a careless and irresponsible way.

 

that was a little on the harsh side i guess. the person who owns it isnt an 18 year old boy racer who hammers it everywere. He is the shops owner and quite responsable, just likes taking tuning/modding to the extreme and races people at shows.

nehoo.....my finance company have called back saying NO! to changing my engine, but the person i spoke too was really down to earth saying that i could do it and just not tell the finance company but it would void everything if i ever need to make a claim etc etc. thats when it will get all a big sticky legal mess.

i so dont know what to do now shall i stick with the 1.4 and accept its slowness or should i change the engine and risk it

 

friends keep saying im an idiot and im looking too far into it. and that i should drop a 1.8 or 2.0 in and be done with it. Everyone keeps saying "oh wen the finance company say your not allowed, what there really saying is we dont want u 2 but cant do naff all if u do" so confused

 

If your mate has a modified car and drives it without telling the insurance IT IS ILLEGAL. If YOU have a modified car and drive it without telling insurance, IT IS ILLEGAL!!
If you finance company DO NOT RECOMMEND you putting a turbo on your 1.4, then DONT do it. If you paid £5000 for the car but will need to "pay nearly double that on finance especially with negative equity", then DONT DO IT. You are already going to be paying way more than you need to and you STILL want to pay more to do something to a car that isnt technically yours??????
If anything, just do enclosed induction, exhaust and regular servicing...

 

Im sorry but i dont see why you would claim on your finance?

 

well i wouldnt want to claim on finance. the only thing im worried about is, if i change engine the finance company might have some documents somewere allowing them to take the car off me if i modify it. i mean little things like induction kit and bits here and there can be easly swapped back to originals if need be but something as big as an engine change where you need to inform dvla, thats not so easy to hide from the finance company

 

i think ill stick to the original plan and stop all you lot influencing me xD lol MODDIN THE 1.4!!! oh thats a thing, iv spotted on ebay a 56mm throttle body. is this better than the 52mm?

 

no steer clear of the 56mm one

 

group 15 is still a pretty high catagory though for a 1.8.

 

What if you cant get the car home? you gonna carry your OE air box exhaust system etc everywhere with you?? Why dont you jsut find out exactly what you can and cant do with your car. Seriously, your already gonna be paying near double the price for it on finanace so why the hell do you want to throw MORE money at it????

 

seriously...who crawled up your back end? :/ theres thousands apon thousands of people who build/modify cars for shows only. you know? there called, wait for it......SHOW CARS

and ofcoarse he drives it on the road, not as a casual driver though. just once every now and then. you cant just let a car sit there doing nothing for weeks on end, not healthy for the car im sure

and yep, not declaring it to the insurance is quite silly, illegal if you dont declare to dvla etc etc i believe. but theres again, thousands of guys out there who do it

when he does take it out for a little run, it doesnt mean hes childish and opens it up for no reason. im guessing he drives just as sensible as you would. why in gods name would he rally it around streets for no apparent reason when the cars had over 5k spent on it. now that would be silly wouldnt it?

and i understand what your saying about the old granny story and yep your right, she would be left with no help insurance wise but like i said above. he doesnt drive it around streets like that,also havnt you forgotten to mention the old poor granny is more than likely the one who caused the accident with her poor judgment,eyesight and reactions.

 

READ WHAT YOU WROTE MATE

...and of coarse he drives it on the road, not as a casual driver though. just once every now and then. you cant just let a car sit there doing nothing for weeks on end, not healthy for the car im sure............

.................when he does take it out for a little run, it doesnt mean hes childish and opens it up for no reason. im guessing he drives just as sensible as you would. why in gods name would he rally it around streets for no apparent reason when the cars had over 5k spent on it. now that would be silly wouldnt it?
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What would be silly is if you answered your own question in your own post:dddc:

...and i understand what your saying about the old granny story and yep your right, she would be left with no help insurance wise but like i said above. he doesnt drive it around streets like that,also havnt you forgotten to mention the old poor granny is more than likely the one who caused the accident with her poor judgment,eyesight and reactions

Doesnt matter if you hit a granny or lampost, driving without insurance is a criminal offence. The police now have the ability to check your car to see if you have insurance, tax, mot, mods decalred etc and they can all do it in the space of 25seconds.

and yep, not declaring it to the insurance is quite silly, illegal if you dont declare to dvla etc etc i believe. but theres again, thousands of guys out there who do it

If everyone does it but it is still illegal, it doesnt make it ok mate. Surely you can understand that they run the risk of having the insurance voided etc and not pay out for anything regardless your fault or not. Would you not be ****** off if you crashed your financed car and you werent covered? Not only would you have to have pay the rest of the finance costs but you wouldnt have a car either.....

 

oh yeh thats wat im saying. i completley agree with it all, just giving it from a different perspective and i know it doesnt make it legal i was just saying that there is quite alot of people who do things like that.

i dont even kno where this convo turned around, i wasnt planning on doing anything illegal anyway if ya read through the topic,lol i wanted to do it as legal as possible, inform dvla and insurance just not the finance peeps

friends where telling me to put in a 2.0 turbo but i wanted 1.8, iv had a conversation with the finance people about it. took them a full day to get a decision and call me back to say no, but there answer wasnt all that convincing. it was "well its a no im afraid" and when i asked why the only reason they could give me was the whole "well if you ever miss a payment or trade it back to us we would find it harder to sell on" which is absolute nonsense. because my original plan was to get it done properly by someone who was a fully trained mg/rover mechanic and change it from 1.4 to 1.8 properly, everything upgraded so theres nothing left to say it was a 1.4 in the first place, declare to dvla/insurance

 

i dont even kno where this convo turned around, i wasnt planning on doing anything illegal anyway if ya read through the topic,lol i wanted to do it as legal as possible, inform dvla and insurance just not the finance peeps ...

Maybe this made us think that....

I suppose i could always do what my friends do and just risk it, they drop a 2.0 turbo in car and dont tell a single soul. my friend has a corsa van which i think was a 1.5 diesel but dropped a 2.0 turbo in it and done other mods and now races supras but insurance and finance still think its a 1.5 diesel

... when i asked why the only reason they could give me was the whole "well if you ever miss a payment or trade it back to us we would find it harder to sell on" which is absolute nonsense. because my original plan was to get it done properly by someone who was a fully trained mg/rover mechanic and change it from 1.4 to 1.8 properly, everything upgraded so theres nothing left to say it was a 1.4 in the first place, declare to dvla/insurance

The finance company is right. How would you explain an engine transplant to the next buyer? "the previous owner wantd more power".

Despite how you may drive it, that statement will be just like saying "I thrashed the hell out of it" to the next buyer.

 

lol its just that nearly everyone is for some kind of "modding", but no one wants to be hit by an uninsured driver which I am sure you would feel the same. I'm not sure where the conversation turned around either.
Just to let you know, there is no "as legal as possible". It is either legal or illegal

 

just edited before u replyed ^^